Then we do it now, or it will never happens. BTW, the conservative movement in Texas should follow the demographics change too. Otherwise, we are conceding defeat as of now.chamberc wrote:Beiruty wrote:We are in red state, and we have majority in both chambers and we have the Governor too? Who would pass a pro gun-control bill and has a chance to pass it? We are the majority pro-gun in Texas. We need to stand up and fight for our rights. It is enough to be scared like a 1st grade student on his first day at school.Keith B wrote:Here's the issue. It's legal today, but if they keep parading around and stirring up trouble, it is not only going to not help passing open carry of handguns, it may well cause people to introduce legislation banning the open carry of long arms as well.ShootDontTalk wrote:[rant on]
This issue is like the Energizer Bunny - it keeps going and going.
A couple of points. First, regardless of differences of opinion about Constitutional issues, is open carry of a long gun in Texas legal or illegal? I'll leave it to the lawyers to argue the ifs, wheres, and whens.
If it is legal and we object because some people frighten the horses, then in my opinion we should get busy and change the laws to make open carry of a long gun illegal in Texas. I don't think anything short of jail will persuade the OC folks who insist on doing it to change their minds. Can anyone think of anything else that would persuade them? One thing is for sure. All the posts here are doing nothing to change their actions. (Mind you I'm not really suggesting this, but just sayin...)
If it is legal, then we are going to have an impossible task appealing to folks who are within the law to stop doing it. It is virtually impossible in this world we live in to appeal to people to stop doing something that Is illegal, or even harmful, just because it is. It seems you cannot rely on good judgement or consideration for others or issues. Some people are just going to do it. Take drunken driving for instance.
I sure wish as much time, effort, and rhetoric were being put into a solution as it is into the endless threads.
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Flame away if it makes you feel better.
Demographics will forever change that no later than 2020.
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- Sun May 18, 2014 10:51 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
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- Sun May 18, 2014 10:30 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
- Replies: 150
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Re: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
We are in red state, and we have majority in both chambers and we have the Governor too? Who would pass a pro gun-control bill and has a chance to pass it? We are the majority pro-gun in Texas. We need to stand up and fight for our rights. It is enough to be scared like a 1st grade student on his first day at school.Keith B wrote:Here's the issue. It's legal today, but if they keep parading around and stirring up trouble, it is not only going to not help passing open carry of handguns, it may well cause people to introduce legislation banning the open carry of long arms as well.ShootDontTalk wrote:[rant on]
This issue is like the Energizer Bunny - it keeps going and going.
A couple of points. First, regardless of differences of opinion about Constitutional issues, is open carry of a long gun in Texas legal or illegal? I'll leave it to the lawyers to argue the ifs, wheres, and whens.
If it is legal and we object because some people frighten the horses, then in my opinion we should get busy and change the laws to make open carry of a long gun illegal in Texas. I don't think anything short of jail will persuade the OC folks who insist on doing it to change their minds. Can anyone think of anything else that would persuade them? One thing is for sure. All the posts here are doing nothing to change their actions. (Mind you I'm not really suggesting this, but just sayin...)
If it is legal, then we are going to have an impossible task appealing to folks who are within the law to stop doing it. It is virtually impossible in this world we live in to appeal to people to stop doing something that Is illegal, or even harmful, just because it is. It seems you cannot rely on good judgement or consideration for others or issues. Some people are just going to do it. Take drunken driving for instance.
I sure wish as much time, effort, and rhetoric were being put into a solution as it is into the endless threads.
[/rant off]
Flame away if it makes you feel better.
- Fri May 16, 2014 10:14 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
- Replies: 150
- Views: 28419
Re: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
So can you describe when the long firearms are carried NOT in a manner calculated to cause alarm? It seems you are declaring OC of long firearms are not legal in Texas, which is simply not true.BuckFlicks wrote:The problem is that the OCT people are breaking the law. Despite their claims to the contrary, their open carry demonstrations are specifically conducted in a manner calculated to cause alarm, which makes their open carry demonstrations a violation of the law. Their entire point is to get the populace railed up and make the news when those frightened citizens call the police and the media. It absolutely is hurting the cause more than helping.
- Tue May 13, 2014 11:32 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
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I hope that this info is relayed to OCT in some fashion. Coordination is the key. Maybe unarmed demonstrations could be as effective. Rally and political speakers could be enough.Charles L. Cotton wrote:I can't go into detail, but if the current tactics continue, then open-carry will be DOA in the 2015 Texas Legislative Session. The legislative response is bad and getting worse and it's not because our friends in Austin are anti-gun as some will scream from the rooftops.
Chas.
- Sun May 11, 2014 7:22 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
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For the anti their logic ( i.e. fear that the presence of arms would make the premise unsafe) for OC of longfirearms or sidearms when it passes, is absurd and idiotic. We have some 500,000 CHLer and they are wondering around all the time armed with 1 or more sidearms. Do they feel safe or scared when we walk around them. I bet you they have no clue we are armed, none the less we are armed. So, with 1/2 million CHLer and no one had his gun jumped out and scared the loulou of the anti-gun liars. Thus, firearms are safe to be around. However, their fear is irrational and emotional, their perception is not founded in factual reality.
Are they afraid when the anti sees LEO armed or when a SWAT is deployed? If so, best for those anti is to have a vacation in Somalia or Yemen.
Are they afraid when the anti sees LEO armed or when a SWAT is deployed? If so, best for those anti is to have a vacation in Somalia or Yemen.