Behind cover, gun in hand and badge out ready to arrest him.Will938 wrote:You tell me where you want to be when you're pretty sure you're about to be shot at;
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- Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:24 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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- Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:28 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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Re: Im Surprised
I noticed it but it really doesn't have any bearing on the event. Besides, everyone thinks I'm out to string up the poor guy already.kwf2006 wrote:I am surprised that no-one has noticed the officers ND/AD!
- Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:23 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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ELB wrote: The COP had plenty of time to LEAVE?!? Why on earth do you want him to leave? He's a cop, not Joe Citizen!
For cryin' out loud. You are working way too hard to make the cop the bad guy here. Ain't gonna wash.
elb
This is a very good point that I hadn't considered. I'm thinking of this from my POV as a citizen.
Regarding your second point: It's insulting. I try very hard to look at the facts without letting my emotions or preconcieved notions color my judgement. Don't be prejudiced against the kid or for the officer until the facts are studied.
- Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:14 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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Will938 wrote:Still, she's acting like the cop is the criminal. I like how she says the perp was returning fire to defend himself...glossing over the fact that he retreived a pistol and was moving to get the drop on the officer.
She said nothing of the sort. The cop shot first. The "perp" returned fire. That's what happened and that's what she said.
Yes the kid retreived a pistol and was moving to get the drop on the officer...who was patiently waiting in his car, gun in hand. The cop had plenty of time to leave.
- Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:03 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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- Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:12 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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- Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:02 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Molon_labe wrote: Last time I checked you DON'T settle a simple argument with a pistol in your hand, if you do...be prepared to defend "your words, with your life"
That's what I'm saying. These punks nowdays DO settle simple arguments with a pistol and you better remember that if you want to live.
This was easily avoidable. The officer just decided to challenge the punk and got more than he bargained for.
- Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:19 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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RubenZ wrote: Are you for real?
This has happened to me a lot of times. Where your paying for something and you move liek 4 ft to put something back and right away the guy behind is already there. I'm not gonna wait for them to finish picking hundreds of lotto cards before I retrieve my item back LOL.
Seriously man, if that is what made that punk go get a gun then its a good thing it happened already.
I'm very for real.
Watch the WJLA video. At 3:00 minutes the police officer made a decision that ruined everyones day. All he had to do was wait one minute tops, let the kid finish buying gas or whatever and everyone goes on their way. It's even more evident from the behind-the-counter video. You can actually see the kid startle at 1:02 on the CNN video.
And remember, we can't hear the conversation from 3:02 to 3:25 on the WJLA video. It is evident, though, that whatever the police officer said really inflamed the kid.
When you make the decision to carry a gun, you have to be more tolerant of others rude behavior.
I'm not saying the kid had a right to go get his gun, I'm saying the police officer, with a little patience, could haved saved everyone a whole lot of grief.
- Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:03 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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I don't agree with that statement. The police officer had it in his power, his decision, to prevent this incident from happening. When he made the decision to invade the kid's private space to retrieve his goods, he knew exactly what he was doing. He's lucky to be alive.Velocity wrote:(referring to the "gang-banger" that instigated the incident).....
- Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:11 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Shootout in South Carolina with video
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