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OldSchool wrote:

Pinkycatcher wrote:

Oldgringo wrote: Wow do you have nostalgia goggles now, and I fixed that list for you, we had all the other things, or we don't have them now (no man has stepped on the moon in decades) and I can name a thousand things that are objectively better now than them including but not limited to:

Advances in medicine--more expensive.
The Internet allowing free and massive access to MIS-information
More expensive, less efficient, and unfixable vehicles
More expensive, less efficient and unfixable TV's
Cheaper and less durable construction
More expensive and less efficient everything basically
Personal computers (really? you put this as a bad thing?)
More fake knowledge in every field
Contacts--you're saying we didn't have these in the 60's?
Running bad water in more expensive homes
etc. etc.
I can go on, but are we better now? Objectively most likely, subjectively not to you with your goggles on, but yes to me.

There, fixed it for you.
No, we're not better off just because of gadgets that someone on the TV says we need to buy.
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Really? TV's wern't fixable in the tube days either by a regular person, neither were vehicles, they were easier for cars, but you still had to have some knowledge, opening up a carb for the first time without instruction is not something you could do and not mess something up, and you can't do that today either (well not a carb, but other things). Medicine is cheaper now, we have more expensive medicines but they are also more powerful and better than any they had back then, penicillin is cheaper now, same with tylenol etc. Fake knowledge? Really? Bad water? Water is cleaner now than ever before. Cheaper contacts that are more advanced, last longer, available for more eye problems. Everything is more efficient now, if you sit and look at it objectively rather than try to remember that back in my day every car would run 300,000 miles and you could wreck it without any problem. Construction now is more durable (obviously depending on the building) than in the 60's, we build with the foresight of expansion, a house is not gonna have asbestos and will be easier to rewire or re-insulate or repair than a house from the 60's (I live in one, it's terrible, brick is crumbling, it's hard to work on, breakers are old and outdated..etc.) And as far as the internet, are you implying that the newspapers and news stations offered more correct information? Really? They're right most of the time but they never get the whole picture and only report about stuff that interests the person who decides to air it. With the internet you can find just about anything about anything.

Oldgringo wrote:
There are a lot of things that didn't exist back in the 60's; e.g:

personal computers
digital stuff
Wal-Mart
and the list goes on and on and on.

Are we better now? I just dunno...

Wow do you have nostalgia goggles now, and I fixed that list for you, we had all the other things, or we don't have them now (no man has stepped on the moon in decades) and I can name a thousand things that are objectively better now than them including but not limited to:

Advances in medicine
The Internet allowing free and massive access to information
Cheaper and more efficient vehicles
Cheaper and more efficient TV's
Cheaper and more efficient construction
Cheaper and more efficient everything basically
Personal computers (really? you put this as a bad thing?)
More knowledge in every field
Contacts
Running water in more homes


etc. etc.
I can go on, but are we better now? Objectively most likely, subjectively not to you with your goggles on, but yes to me.