The problem was just as likely to be caused by the radius of the waist being larger than the radius of the hips, which is an increasingly common issue these days. This leaves nothing for the belt to rest on. The result is having to constantly pull up one's pants, regardless of the type of pants waist or belt. Suspenders are about the only working fix.them wrote:Yep, which is why I tried to bypass the holsterless/exposed trigger safety argument (which is inexorably tied to personal tolerances and perception). It is like motorcycle riding...millions do it, millions of others think doing it is "begging for [trouble]".Everyone makes his own decisions and then lives with the outcomes.
However, having a pistol drag your pants down to the point where you are constantly hitching them has nothing to do with holsters or exposed triggers. It is a sign that the load bearing system (belt, or what have you) the carrier chose (probably elastic band shorts or something like that) wasn't sufficient for the load. You can have the exact same problem (complete with ND) with holsters and no belt.
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- Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:58 pm
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It takes significantly more force to get an ND with a revolver's 12 - 14 lb. trigger pull that with a semiauto's 4 - 8 lb. pull, but it can still happen. There were lots when police all carried revolvers (not all from carrying without the trigger guard covered, of course).them wrote:And yet it has been common practice for decades. E.g. FBI agents, back in the revolver days, often carried DA revolvers with clips that mounted under the stock plate on one side. I think S&W still sells a few models with a "hip grip" installed as factory equipment. Every popular ccw has a clip available, and they sell/are used daily by many people. Very few NDs considering.Excaliber wrote:
Carrying with an uncovered trigger guard is not just asking for trouble - it's begging for it.
Those who choose to carry a gun with the trigger guard uncovered have a much higher risk tolerance than I do. Everyone makes his own decisions and then lives with the outcomes.
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Carrying with an uncovered trigger guard is not just asking for trouble - it's begging for it.them wrote:Many companies make clips that mount to the gun and go over a waistband or belt to hold the gun - holsterless - in place. My P3AT has such a clip, as does my Glock 22. The P3AT can be worn in drawstring exercise shorts and works fine/doesn't drag (I won't argue safe/not safe since there is an obvious culture gap here). The g22 clip is very handy for going outside to see what the dogs are barking at but you need as much of a belt as when the G22 is in the Simply Rugger Cuda holster I am using IWB as I type this.
I would much rather have a clip than an uncle mikes nylon gundropper.
This isn't a "no holster" problem...it is a "gun too heavy for support system+general thoughtlessness" problem. IMO.