At this point the question of motive is probably academic. In either case, the results of what they're doing is the same - catastrophe.Keith B wrote:The article is a bit of creative editing. The process was not just for West Africa, but for any visa. The work had been ongoing, and the dates just happened to coincide with when Duncan came into the country.Excaliber wrote:I'd appreciate it if those who believe that our country's response to Ebola is due to ordinary incompetence could help me understand by explaining this latest bit of news under that theory.
I do not disagree that they are working to create more opportunity for these types of things to come into the country, including terrorists, but I believe it is due to a total incompetence in looking at the whole picture and risks vs. a malicious attempt at trying to bring infected individuals or potential terrorists into the country. The Democrats and their liberal views are that we need to be welcoming and warm and allow those less fortunate to come in easier. They are wearing rose colored glasses and fail to do any oversight on the risks involved with opening the borders. I DO think that they realize by bringing in these people from other countries and allowing them to vote they get more people who will vote Democrat, but I still believe they are just incompetent ninnies and have no real clue what they are doing to this country.
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- Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:27 pm
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- Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:03 am
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I'd appreciate it if those who believe that our country's response to Ebola is due to ordinary incompetence could help me understand by explaining this latest bit of news under that theory.
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:37 pm
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Why would medical competence be a consideration?philip964 wrote:Ebola Czar picked by WH has no medical training at all.
No surprise there.
His actual role has nothing to do with medicine just like the director of the CDC.
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:35 pm
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Well, I considered that more comforting (??) explanation, but don't think it fits because incompetence makes mistakes in many directions. Some are really bad, some not so bad, and some relatively neutral. When at every decision point the worst choice available is chosen, I find it hard to avoid thinking that a deliberate plan underlies the actions.Keith B wrote:I just think it is just total incompetence in play. I have seen a lot of this in corporate America. The Peter Principle is very much in effect and the upper management promotes those below to their level of incompetence. This is because the upper manager does not want those below to be smarter or better than they are and doesn't want them to challenge the upper managers decisions. They have a fear the more intelligent lower manager will expose them for the incompetent ninny they are and end up taking their job, so they won't promote that one, they take the 'yes man'. This type of organization building tends to create an environment where only the idiots exist and the structure eventually collapses taking other things with it. I saw that happen a couple of years ago when a new upper level officer came into a team and the smart managers all starting bailing as they could see the ship was sinking and the Captain was not going to let anyone save it.Excaliber wrote:It may be time to consider that the failure to protect America by the most basic an obvious means, leaving us completely vulnerable to a massive epidemic of a 70% fatal disease, may be the latest element of a deliberate pattern of action intended to seriously damage our country.
It is consistent with bringing tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children with drug resistant tuberculosis and other communicable diseases across the border, distributing them throughout the country as quickly as possible, and then mandating that they be admitted to the schools without proof of vaccination - the same schools our own kids can't get into without the vaccination records.
It is also consistent with sending 4,000 of our remaining combat exhausted troops into the current epidemic's hot zone with no military related mission, no training and no effective protection. The likely consequence of that is not hard to foresee.
Why else would the head of the CDC expose himself to ridicule and calls for resignation by telling the country that Ebola is hard to catch, every hospital in America is well prepared to handle cases, approve a monitored person with a fever to fly on a commercial airline, and refuse to recommend closing our borders to people from infected areas because that might harm the economies of some African nations? Nobody is innocently that dumb.
There's a pattern here that's hard to miss, and it's consistent with many other actions of this administration that have had the effect of weakening the U.S. economically and militarily.
It's ugly and its implications are stark, but I'm having trouble coming up with an alternate explanation for what we see.
Any help with what I may be missing would be appreciated. I could sleep a lot better if I had a credible alternate explanation for this.
I believe that is what we have in place today, a President who is inept and puts his cronies or 'yes men' in positions of power where they are not equipped to truly handle the job. If anyone challenges him, he squelches them, then he makes it so unbearable they quit. If they are smart they bail out before the ship goes down.
I think we are all riding that sinking ship and the Captain is the one drilling more holes in the hull while telling everyone to just have another drink and enjoy the show.
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:17 am
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It may be time to consider that the failure to protect America by the most basic an obvious means, leaving us completely vulnerable to a massive epidemic of a 70% fatal disease, may be the latest element of a deliberate pattern of action intended to seriously damage our country.
It is consistent with bringing tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children with drug resistant tuberculosis and other communicable diseases across the border, distributing them throughout the country as quickly as possible, and then mandating that they be admitted to the schools without proof of vaccination - the same schools our own kids can't get into without the vaccination records.
It is also consistent with sending 4,000 of our remaining combat exhausted troops into the current epidemic's hot zone with no military related mission, no training and no effective protection. The likely consequence of that is not hard to foresee.
Why else would the head of the CDC expose himself to ridicule and calls for resignation by telling the country that Ebola is hard to catch, every hospital in America is well prepared to handle cases, approve a monitored person with a fever to fly on a commercial airline, and refuse to recommend closing our borders to people from infected areas because that might harm the economies of some African nations? Nobody is innocently that dumb.
There's a pattern here that's hard to miss, and it's consistent with many other actions of this administration that have had the effect of weakening the U.S. economically and militarily.
It's ugly and its implications are stark, but I'm having trouble coming up with an alternate explanation for what we see.
Any help with what I may be missing would be appreciated. I could sleep a lot better if I had a credible alternate explanation for this.
It is consistent with bringing tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children with drug resistant tuberculosis and other communicable diseases across the border, distributing them throughout the country as quickly as possible, and then mandating that they be admitted to the schools without proof of vaccination - the same schools our own kids can't get into without the vaccination records.
It is also consistent with sending 4,000 of our remaining combat exhausted troops into the current epidemic's hot zone with no military related mission, no training and no effective protection. The likely consequence of that is not hard to foresee.
Why else would the head of the CDC expose himself to ridicule and calls for resignation by telling the country that Ebola is hard to catch, every hospital in America is well prepared to handle cases, approve a monitored person with a fever to fly on a commercial airline, and refuse to recommend closing our borders to people from infected areas because that might harm the economies of some African nations? Nobody is innocently that dumb.
There's a pattern here that's hard to miss, and it's consistent with many other actions of this administration that have had the effect of weakening the U.S. economically and militarily.
It's ugly and its implications are stark, but I'm having trouble coming up with an alternate explanation for what we see.
Any help with what I may be missing would be appreciated. I could sleep a lot better if I had a credible alternate explanation for this.
- Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:26 am
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With a disease that has an incubation period of up to 21 days, that'll only catch people who already have symptoms.philip964 wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/eb ... es-3977051
Woman dies walking off of a plane from Sierra Leon in London. Plane is quarantined.
She ended up testing negative for Ebola.
I would hope they are taking everyone's temperature before they board every flight from Africa.
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:30 pm
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More likely he'll stop spending for infectious disease containment systems and sell it as a reduction in the deficit.sjfcontrol wrote:He's planning an Executive Order preventing the virus from entering the country. If it does, he'll order a drone strike.mojo84 wrote:philip964 wrote:Don't worry the President has been briefed.
Did he watch the news?
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:27 am
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CDC chief now says, uh, maybe Ebola could come here, but don't worry - it still wouldn't spread because we're so good at containing infections diseases.
Details here.
The country can have full confidence in this agency that stuck live smallpox cultures in an untracked cardboard box in storage and exposed scores of its own workers to anthrax.
Details here.
The country can have full confidence in this agency that stuck live smallpox cultures in an untracked cardboard box in storage and exposed scores of its own workers to anthrax.
- Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:51 am
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No need to fear.
The wonderfully honest administration that told you "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" and "There isn't a smidgen of corruption at the IRS" has told us there's nothing to worry about Ebola in the U.S.
The wonderfully honest administration that told you "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan" and "There isn't a smidgen of corruption at the IRS" has told us there's nothing to worry about Ebola in the U.S.