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well in the gun show going past the 30.06 sign, then un-zip-tying your gun and reloading, concealing it, you are committing criminal trespass.

Yeah I have read the threads about Taco Cabana. I don't know if you were talking to me DoubleJ. But I think this forum has a lot of newcomers and quick turnover, does it not?

Anyway I thought this thread was about some TC stores removing the 30.06 signs?

I know my TC used to have the 8.5x11 sort-of-30.06 sign and it now has the ambiguous and clearly unenforceable sign. Something changed!

Yep, I don't agree with the boycott idea.

I do agree that if there is a company that openly and aggressively supports anti-gun policies, or whatever other thing is against your ideals, you have every cause to boycott that company. But with Taco Cabana we have a local outlet of a national restaurant chain passively putting up a sign that carries no legal weight due to misguided corporate policy enacted from a company based in a state where concealed carry is so unlikely as to be nearly impossible. Now if Taco Cabana begins to print on your reciept, "25% of all of our profits are donated to the Brady Campaign" then by all means, boycott.

It's completely impractical to boycott every outfit that doesn't suit your political or personal ideals. I would like to not pay sales tax in the city of Austin because I don't support them providing health benefits for unmarried domestic partners of city employees with my tax money. However, is that even remotely practical for someone who lives less than 3 miles from the Austin city limit? I doubt it. That's just one example.

Or do you guys boycott gun shows with 30.06 signs?

How about if you get a traffic ticket that is not your fault, do you just suck it up and pay the ticket, since you can't carry into the court house to fight it? Or do you refuse to pay it because you don't want to support your municipality which enforces the courtroom carry restriction? Do you refuse to pay your property taxes since the state runs schools that are no-gun zones? Where does it end?

IMHO for most people I have talked to about the Taco Cabana style CHL boycotts, it ends once it is remotely inconvenient. They say "hey I am not going to eat at Taco Cabana because they don't allow me to carry my gun in, by Jove! And I don't like their food anyway!". But what if it was HEB? Do you not buy groceries "and I don't like to eat anyway!"?

BTW I looked in my local Taco Cabana. They have a sign that says something very much like: "Notice: The possession of a weapon on these premises is prohibited". It's on a cork board inside the building near the register along with their liquor license and health dept. certificate and all that jazz. Not even remotely enforceable. I walked right in with my gun in my belt to read the sign :) If I had been hungry, I would have ordered a chicken fajita cabana bowl.

Byron I agree with your position 100%.

And by the way, we can't really accurately ascertain what they are thinking anyway. Largely I think this is a cultural thing. How many of us have a hard time even educating our own anti-gun family members? The usefulness of guns just doesn't make sense to some people, and some of those people are business owners or corporate officers making misguided "safety" policy regarding guns on their property.

It doesn't necessarily follow that they are anti-gun, or trampling our rights, or oppose our right to defend ourselves. It is most likely that they think they are protecting their customers, and they are just misinformed or misguided. Of course we think we know better. I know we think we can change their minds through a boycott but even if 100% of the CHL holders in TX initiated a total boycott on Taco Cabana, I bet it would amount to less than a 1% reduction in their sales, which might be noticeable but certainly not enough to force them to change their policy.

Easy to be real black and white, line in the sand, stand firm on your rights, kind of thing when it's convenient.

But there are all kinds of things we all buy and consume, whether we know it or not, from companies or organizations who oppose our right to carry. Unless you live in the woods, get power from a windmill and grow your own food, then get used to it.

well maybe you guys should stop using the internet then.

I guarantee you that in using the internet, you are using equipment built by the company I work for, and they definitely and unequivocally restrict my right to use a gun for self defense while on their property, and this applies to customers, visitors and employees alike.

Not that I want back in this fight, but I tend to choose a restaurant based on lots of qualities not only limited to the CHL policy. I guess you just have to balance it however it works out for you. I won't reward a company with my business if their product stinks or is over-priced.

Here's to hoping this is a new Taco Cabana policy. That would end all debate for me. I guess I am in the minority in that I am a CHL holder who likes Taco Cabana's food.

I'll look at the one here in Cedar Park. We go there all the time :) I recall seeing a sign there some time ago.