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by 03Lightningrocks
Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:13 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

sjfcontrol wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:They aren't 100 years old but I have been going in there for about 30 years... give or take. The visual of standing on one side and saying, "OK, Now Shoot It", cracks me up.
They've been there since 1989, so you started shooting 8 years before they got there! :lol:
LOL... the older I get, the worse I get at estimating my past. I was there for the grand opening... so yep... 22... 25... 30... whatever. :mrgreen:
by 03Lightningrocks
Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:47 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

They aren't 100 years old but I have been going in there for about 30 years... give or take. The visual of standing on one side and saying, "OK, Now Shoot It", cracks me up.
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:19 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

sjfcontrol wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote: You think or you know? I have never asked them if they were filled with "bullet resistant" material. Now you have my curiosity going. :headscratch
Well, I have no specific knowledge regarding the construction of the Bullet Trap's shooting booths, however, I have investigated range construction, and the vendors I talked to all had some form of "bullet resistant" material between the booths. I can also tell you that there is a thing called a "safety seal" (don't know why), which is basically a sheet of ballistic steel wrapped with plywood (and an airgap between them). This is placed directly above the shooter. If the shooter shoots straight up, the round penetrates the plywood, and richoches off the steel and is captured between the steel and plywood. Most booth walls either have steel on the inside, or outside, and fill the gaps with some material to slow/capture the round.

I will be going to the Bullet trap probably tomorrow. If I can remember, I'll ask.
Cool... let me know what you find out. :cheers2: As soon as you see the plastic looking dividers, I bet you think about it...LOL. If you can ask them without making them think your some kind of inspector, try to find out if they have the steel above the actual bays. I have seen holes right above where I stand and have wondered about the results from those misfires.
by 03Lightningrocks
Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:02 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

sjfcontrol wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:
fulano wrote:Gun ranges are just risky. Period.

A large portion of the daily shooters are members or regulars but there are always the walk ins who are unknown.

Last week I watched a guy with a new gun who couldn't get the gun to cycle. I watched him while my wife shot. He just couldn't figure the gun out. Is that not scary? I thought the RO might help out but the guy packed it in after a while.

You just never know who is next to you.

I would agree with you. I try to keep an eye out for dangerous situations. The Bullet Trap has plastic dividers between lanes that make it hard to see if your in the cross hairs. A bullet would go right through the divider. The single biggest mistake I see is folks pointing their guns to the side as they lay them down. I am not the least bit shy about telling them to lay the gun down so the muzzle is pointing down range. The second issue I witness is folks pointing their guns to the side as they slap a magazine into it. :shock:
I think you'll find those partitions are filled with pea gravel, or some other ballistic material to make the partitions bullet resistant.
You think or you know? I have never asked them if they were filled with "bullet resistant" material. Now you have my curiosity going. :headscratch
by 03Lightningrocks
Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:10 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

fulano wrote:Gun ranges are just risky. Period.

A large portion of the daily shooters are members or regulars but there are always the walk ins who are unknown.

Last week I watched a guy with a new gun who couldn't get the gun to cycle. I watched him while my wife shot. He just couldn't figure the gun out. Is that not scary? I thought the RO might help out but the guy packed it in after a while.

You just never know who is next to you.

I would agree with you. I try to keep an eye out for dangerous situations. The Bullet Trap has plastic dividers between lanes that make it hard to see if your in the cross hairs. A bullet would go right through the divider. The single biggest mistake I see is folks pointing their guns to the side as they lay them down. I am not the least bit shy about telling them to lay the gun down so the muzzle is pointing down range. The second issue I witness is folks pointing their guns to the side as they slap a magazine into it. :shock:
by 03Lightningrocks
Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:46 am
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

RoyGBiv wrote:MY general rule is to follow any posted signs, even if not specifically CHL-specific/enforceable... And then ASK...
Great way to get verbally 30:06ed. There is a very specific set of laws regarding which signs apply to you. There is no reason to ask, other than to make sure everyone knows you have a gun on you. :banghead:
by 03Lightningrocks
Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:03 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

C-dub wrote: They might say something, but all they can do is ask you to leave.

No... they won't say anything. They had no intention of disarming a CHL holder with that sign! I know the folks working and running that place. I know their intentions of that sign! They are a 30+ year old business that does firearms training also CHL classes. They know what it takes to disarm a CHL . That is not who the sign is talking to! This is starting to remind me of one those gun buster sign threads! I'm gonna blow a gaskit over here! :lol::

Maybe one of the crusaders can go into Bullet Trap and tell them that sign can't prevent them from carrying concealed in there. Please post up the date and time your going. I want to be there with a video camera as they ask you where the short bus went after it dropped you off.
by 03Lightningrocks
Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:56 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

sjfcontrol wrote::iagree: Yeah. That's already been said at least once in this thread, by somebody, I forget who...

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Well there ya go. That proves I was paying attention. :mrgreen:
by 03Lightningrocks
Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:06 pm
Forum: Shooting Ranges
Topic: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?
Replies: 83
Views: 16125

Re: Conceal Carry when going to the Range?

Bully238 wrote:
baldeagle wrote:Ask the range what their policy is. Garland Shooting Range allows it. The Bullet Trap in Plano has a sign in the window stating that all firearms must be unloaded before entering. Having said that, it's not illegal to carry concealed into/onto a gun range. The worst that could happen is that they ask you not to return, which might be a tipoff that they shouldn't get your business anyway.
I've seen that sign at the Bullet Trap and these rules only make it difficult for "law abiding citizens". At some point your gun will be loaded. After all you are going to the range to SHOOT your weapon for crying out loud. The Garland range is something special. It's not everyday you can shoot along side an 20 something with purple hair and a nose ring. Ahh yes...even they have rights (and of course I support their rights).

Once again I will point out that the sign mentioned DOES NOT apply to a person with a CHL. Unless said person failed to pay attention in class and does not understand the basic rules of proper signage required to prohibit entrance with a LOADED concealed weapon. They teach a CHL coarse at Bullet Trap. They figure they should not have to explain this to a CHL holder.

NOTHING ABOUT THE SIGN MAKES IT HARD ON A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN!

I agree about Garland Public shooting range. That place does attract some very colorful personalities...LOL. Bullet Trap does also, but because they have cameras watching all shooters, the buffoonery is kept to a minimum. At Garland it takes a fellow shooter to catch the fools and correct them.

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