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parabelum wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:30 pm While I personally don’t smoke weed, I have seen first hand experiences of how helpful it can be to some. My mom passed away from cancer not too long ago. Towards the end the cookies helped her eat and be at ease more. I have also seen people who are very anxious or get stressed too easily benefit from it. Argument can be made that it is actually less lethal to you (and others) then alcohol.
I’ve ran plenty calls where scene was rather interesting due to alcohol. Not so much with weed. So while I don’t have a dog in the puff game, I don’t have an issue with decriminalizing it. Focus ought to be more on hard drugs, coke, meth, fentanyl etc. Weed ain’t in the same ballpark imho.

There has also been reports of marijuana helping people with MS symptoms. My daughter for one. It helped with some of her symptoms but she did not like the way it made her feel so she discontinued it in pretty short order. She only tried it a couple three times. She is against intoxicants of any kind so she discontinued with the experiment. She occasionally uses CBD oil but CBD oil has zero intoxication affects. The current classification by the federal government of marijuana makes it extremely difficult to do meaningful research on any potential medical benefits from it's use. It is quite possible there are several beneficial uses in the different chemicals derived from marijuana yet to be discovered.

anygunanywhere wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:05 am https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/s ... +marijuana

Reading that once again tells us all that government intrusion is to blame for illegal activity. The amount of fees and taxes imposed on the legal industry is absolutely ridiculous. No wonder there are problems. Government intrusion into pain medications created a devil far worse than the one we had from legal pain medications. Thanks to government, we now have illegal drugs on the rise such as heroin and fentanyl. If there is any possible way to make an unmitigated disaster of anything, the government can show us how.

clarionite wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:05 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:18 pm The other fallacy is that marijuana is somehow a "gateway drug". More propaganda from those who have no idea of what they speak. If anything is a gateway drug, it is alcohol. I was sneaking liquor out from under friends family liquor cabinets way before smoking pot. I have known many folks who never smoked pot but started taking pain killers from an injury and before they knew it were sitting in rehab trying to break the addiction. Would this qualify pain medication as a gateway drug. There are many folks who won't smoke pot but start doing coke. Two different drugs, two completely different affects.

It actually is a gateway... But not due to the drug itself. Because it's illegal, you end up being in circles that normalize the rest of the drugs too. Putting Pot into the same classification as Heroin, Crack, Fentanyl... It's crazy. If you bought a pack of joints like a pack of cigarettes at the liquor store I don't see it any different than buying a case of beer. Change ATF to ATS. Alcohol, Tobacco and Substances... Get them out of the Firearm business and let them deal with pot.

That is actually a good point. There is no doubt that buying illegal marijuana puts one in a circle of contacts that may offer other more dangerous substances. Another good reason to legalize it. Take the criminal element out of the purchasing process.

clarionite wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:48 pm
I don't see lack of enforcement of the law as reason to make other laws.

It is illegal to drive impaired. If that's alcohol, pot or even cough medicine.

It is illegal to drive under the influence of any drug that creates intoxication or impaired reactions. Yet every day folks drive while taking prescription pain killers, prescription anti anxiety drugs and so on. It plainly states on the label to not operate machinery while taking many prescription drugs. People think because they have a prescription they are exempt from prosecution. They are very very wrong.

powerboatr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:41 pm the problem as i see it is. if its treated like alcohol...then driving just became even more dangerous.
DUI DWI are not caught or punished enough.

around here with the lake, we have lots of folks driving under influence, on the water and pulling a boat behind a vehicle. you can watch them stagger out of the boat and get behind the wheel. NEVER caught
so with pot, it will be same thing, stoned and not having to pee and kills me in a head on.
my folks got hit a few years back at 65 to 70 head one on a two lane road her, driver was asleep because she was so impaired. only my Gods grace did they not get killed. modern crash worthiness saved their lives. plus she had two babies in the car without car seats...she got zero tickets or jail
troopers said they didnt see her with kids n car...WHAT?? they were in the ambulance by time police arrived

It is illegal to drive drunk. Imagine folks doing it anyway. Driving drunk being illegal did nothing to prevent your parents accident. Kind of like it is illegal to use a gun in a crime. Imagine folks doing it anyway. It is illegal to smoke pot. Imagine folks doing it anyway. There will be no sudden increase of people driving under the influence of pot, if legalized, any more than constitutional carry increases people being shot. Even in states that have totally legalized marijuana, the feds could come in at any time and prosecute growers and distributers under federal law. Many of the big growers and "dispensaries" could face 10 years and much more in prison under federal law.

I personally don't currently smoke marijuana. I smoked it when a much younger person. I don't consume alcohol anymore either. But I do feel it is way past time to get rid of antiquated federal laws against using marijuana. They should treat it just as they do alcohol. Same age limits and all. Same penalties for driving under the influence. In my 61 years of life I have yet to see or hear about a person high on pot losing their temper and beating their wife, kids or some other innocent person. Yet every day there are hundreds of beatings from people consuming alcohol.

The other fallacy is that marijuana is somehow a "gateway drug". More propaganda from those who have no idea of what they speak. If anything is a gateway drug, it is alcohol. I was sneaking liquor out from under friends family liquor cabinets way before smoking pot. I have known many folks who never smoked pot but started taking pain killers from an injury and before they knew it were sitting in rehab trying to break the addiction. Would this qualify pain medication as a gateway drug. There are many folks who won't smoke pot but start doing coke. Two different drugs, two completely different affects.