Expandable batons are directly responsible for some deaths. O.C. spray is directly responsible for some deaths. They are not called non lethal they are called less lethal. The use of force continuum for most agencies allows for the use of less lethal force to effect the arrest in order to protect the life of the officer, general public and the person from themselves. It may be out of the ordinary, but this was in no way unwarranted. What would have happened if the lady had somehow escaped the officer and gotten back in her car? How much force is the officer going to have to use now to get her stopped and in custody? How many people will be hurt/maimed/killed in the process? Will it be an innocent child? Too many what if's. Get the suspect in custody using the least amount of reasonable force possible so we can all go home to our loved ones. That's what we all strive for, end of storycasingpoint wrote:There is a growing body of evidence tasers are directly responsible for some deaths and are, in fact deadly weapons. You get a cop gone irrationally ballistic on you with a deadly weapon, what are your rights to defend yourself?The problem with Tasers is that there are little to no residual effects
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- Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:19 am
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- Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:15 am
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k6gixx wrote: If he had to take her down it would have been much worse for her. His only options were a: tase her b: spray her c: use his baton or d: use a pressure point or physical force designed to put a healthy male on the ground. You decide. I do this stuff for a living and IMHO the officer used the most effective, least destructive force necessary to subdue the individual.
The only problem with this argument, is that there is no reasoning with these people. Losing his composure is definitely not the best thing that could have happened, but honestly a 72 yr old anything should know better than to throw an infantile tantrum on the side of the road. If she had a problem, she could have fought the ticket using the court system. As has been said before this is Travis county. And no violence was not used to stop a hissy fit. It was used to effect the arrest.kd5zex wrote:With all due respect, I call horsehockey on that; using violence to stop a hissy fit? Here is another option, reasoned discussion and the utilization of your best weapon, your brain. As I stated in another post, the deputy carries an equal amount of blame for losing his composure.
- Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:57 am
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I suggest you research the effects and specs of a Taser sir. It has been proven time and time again that Tasers do not affect the performance of a pace-maker. And yes he may have towered over her, however tactics the police are taught do not allow the use of "gentleness" in the case of the elderly or infirmed. If he had to take her down it would have been much worse for her. His only options were a: tase her b: spray her c: use his baton or d: use a pressure point or physical force designed to put a healthy male on the ground. You decide. I do this stuff for a living and IMHO the officer used the most effective, least destructive force necessary to subdue the individual.RiveraRa wrote:I think that not only was she 72 yrs old, not only did he tower over her, but he also demonstrated that he would have had no problem cuffing her when he shoved her. He threw her like a rag doll. He would have had no problem cuffing her. Thats what hes trained to do.
And as for accidentally breaking her arm....what about when she landed on the ground from being tased. What about if she had a pace maker.
She was a jerk. She deserved the ticket, she might have deserved the arrest. But to be tasered? No. Also, I believe that we are not allowed to tase terrorists because it is considered torture. (hearsay?)