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by Justice
Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:50 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: If Obama gets relected.....
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Re: If Obama gets relected.....

74novaman wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:My issue is that both parties want to infringe on my freedom. It is just different freedoms they are each wanting to take away. The lessor of two evils for me is to vote anybody but Odumbell.
That's a pretty good summary.
I am a legal resident alien. I can not vote. Even if I could, my vote would not sway the outcome in the biggest (alaska doesn't count :mrgreen: ) state in the USA. I am already eligible to become a citizen. The reason I am not doing it is because the direction we are headed in. A little background...

I am originally from the Netherlands. A socialist country.

I have found differences in the healthcare here and in the Netherlands. The main thing is that over here they don't fool around when they find something. Over there my dad had to wait to see if his herniated back got any better. Really? They finally did something about it because it was affecting the quality of life. The cost of insurance was about half what I pay here. But the coverage was the same.

The Netherlands has the same problem with the social security we have. Raising the age because it is becoming impossible to pay out. Ponzi scheme, just like it is over here. If I where to be allowed to keep my social security contributions I could put it away in my own accounts and get a good retirement. And if I end up dying prematurely, all that money would be in my wifes / childs hands, not the hands of the government who then rubs their hands together because they won't have to pay out my portion. I will be taking it as early as possible. I will be able to do things I wouldn't be at 67. I'd gladly take the pay-cut. Something you might not even feel until age 75. And by then my life could well be over.

Not to mention the Netherlands has (or had) a base tax rate of 33%, going up from there. Taxes (get this) money that is sitting in your savings account above a certain amount. Which is around 21000 euros I believe. Money that has been taxed already when you made it. That is what is in store for us when Obama gets re-elected. They say you are supposed to support your president. I find that hard if the president is hard on becoming the worst one in history. I hope America makes the right choice. I hope they vote him out of office, and get someone in that knows what needs to be done. Starting with Obamacare.

Certain aspects I like about obamacare. The part of not being denied coverage with pre-existing conditions. We can't all be healthy, and the insurance companies make oodles of money to begin with. This comes from (as far as I know) a healthy person. Obamacare as it sits now would only have worked if there was a Public Option. Which is not there because of extensive lobbying (and undoubtedly millions of dollars in pledges) by the private insurance companies. Thus it needs to be undone. Not to mention the violation of constitutional rights by mandating insurance for every person. Unless you are in the low class of income. Really? That is the reason why "no one" has insurance now. And with the premium-hikes under the umbrella "cover all pre-existing condition people in 2014" it has become even less affordable. Backfire... burn...

Obama out -> GOP in = 1 more citizen. (and yes, that rhymed, and it was unintentional).

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