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by Oldgringo
Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:42 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

03Lightningrocks wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:The reality is, the level of guilt one feels over carrying a handgun is directly proportional to how one responds when answering the question posed in this thread. :tiphat:

I feel zero guilt about carrying. I feel zero "special citizen" class because I am carrying. I don't feel any different about carrying a handgun on my person than I would a money clip. This renders me incapable of feeling like I am somehow "disrespecting" a person when I am carrying my handgun.
Exactly. Guilt is not part of it at all, which is one reason why I don't have those kinds of relationships to begin with.
Maybe I am sheltered but I don't personally have any associates, family or friends who are anti gun. I think you mentioned this earlier but my bet is that the person who is anti gun is someone who would have many other opinions that conflict with mine. I don't think I would have to be concerned with an invitation to their party in the first place. :mrgreen:
Who was it that said, "...birds of a feather oft gather together..." about a dozen or so pages ago?

I can't think of any associates, family or friends who are anti-gun but I do have some of each who are staunch abolitionists when it comes to the subject of strong drink and I occasionally visit in their homes....for a short dry spell. Similarly, they are invited into my home...they usually don't stay past the :cheers2: howdies; choosing instead to :leaving.
by Oldgringo
Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:13 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

I've seen all sorts of invitations to various gatherings that contained the request, "RSVP". I've even seen invitations that requested "No Children"; however, I've never seen any invitation that contained the caveat of, "NO GUNS, Please". :smilelol5:
by Oldgringo
Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:11 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

03Lightningrocks wrote:
txglock21 wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:What's with you people? Just because we have a Texas CHL doesn't mean we HAVE TO carry anywhere. A CHL enhances our choices, it doesn't dictate them.

In our particular instance above, I CHOSE NOT to carry to the Saturday night party in the home of our first CHL instructor (there were at least a half dozen CHL's in attendance). The next day, Sunday, I CHOSE TO carry to the Christmas service in the house of the Lord. In both instances, Mrs. Oldgringo and I exercised our liberties, did our thing and arrived home safely thereafter.
You are absolutely right, but I CHOOSE to carry or I CHOOSE not to go. As for carrying at Mom's, if I didn't carry, I would be the only adult there not carrying including Momma. She got her CHL before I did.
I don't think there is anything wrong with people except for a possible misinterpretation of what a right is. We have the right to carry, or the right not to carry. It works both ways. But it is my choice. Not yours, my mommies or my ex chl instructor. I saw a few posts saying they would not go if told not to carry. That is also a choice. The reality of it all is, I have no such weird folks in my circle of friends or family. The very nature of that request, indicates a person I would not associate with in the first place.
Exactly! Is this a great country or what? :patriot:
by Oldgringo
Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:09 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

What's with you people? Just because we have a Texas CHL doesn't mean we HAVE TO carry anywhere. A CHL enhances our choices, it doesn't dictate them.

In our particular instance above, I CHOSE NOT to carry to the Saturday night party in the home of our first CHL instructor (there were at least a half dozen CHL's in attendance). The next day, Sunday, I CHOSE TO carry to the Christmas service in the house of the Lord. In both instances, Mrs. Oldgringo and I exercised our liberties, did our thing and arrived home safely thereafter.
by Oldgringo
Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

I did not carry in/to the Christmas party we attended Saturday night. I did carry to/during the Christmas Cantata at the FUMC on Sunday. Does that count? There wasn't any drinkin' during the Cantata service.
by Oldgringo
Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

chasfm11 wrote: {snip}
For me, it would be a very rare instance where I'm faced with the decision. 8 times out of 10, I'm not going to go to party at someone's house at all if I know that they are strongly anti-gun because I haven't found guns to be a singular point of disagreement with people who hold the anti-gun position. I can tick through 10 other topics on which we would probably disagree. I think it is pointless to go to a party at someone's house and to think that the weather was probably the only topic that I can safely discuss with them. But there are some parties which have a level of obligation to attend. Those are the ones that I would ponder. Do I blow off the obligation and not go? Do I go and, just because I can, carry? Or do I chose a different path? At the end of the day, it is only about me living with my own decision. All of us have different tolerance levels on that.
:iagree:
As said earlier, birds of a feather tend to flock together.
by Oldgringo
Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:38 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

EEllis wrote:
Jihans wrote:A lot of these posts deal in absolutes when there are some gray areas. For example, if I know a relative doesn't like guns I won't carry in their house. Even though they didn't say anything verbally, my knowing their position strikes me as getting notice..... I know not legally.... But I think morally I have to respect that when I go to their house. Or I can chose not to go of course. I'm sure others think differently but I think this can be a gray area. As much as I think anti gun people should respect my right to carry I think I should also consider their feelings when entering their house.
:iagree:
:iagree: Should we have occasion to visit in the house of those of differing views, the visit is not long. For instance, I only know two people who will admit to voting for the current POTUS. One lives in St. Ignatius, MT and the other lives down the street. We don't see either very much. Birds of a feather tend to flock together....
by Oldgringo
Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:43 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

We go to few parties and while there may be alcohol served to adults, it is not served to drunks - armed or unarmed.
by Oldgringo
Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:46 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carry at holiday parties
Replies: 116
Views: 16611

Re: Carry at holiday parties

03Lightningrocks wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:I am perplexed by the guilt some seem to feel about carrying. It is OK. You have the gubermints approval. Why feel guilty??? I really don't get the question. It is simply weird! Concealed means concealed! It makes me wonder if some feel like they are a "special" class of people. How the heck would anyone know we are carrying? Are we stupid enough or brash enough to run around bragging about it as if it makes us tough? Did you tell everyone that would listen you have a gun on you? It is suppose to be secret....concealed. The whole thing is simply confusing to me. Please explain how your friends acquired x-ray vision. I want it. Last but not least, why is it "safer" in the house of a friend than in a mall? You don't feel the need to carry 24/7? please enlighten me as to how I will know ahead of time when my firearm is needed. I would love to pick and choose when I carry. Bad guys show up at all places! :tiphat:
I don't care about the government in this context. I do care if I am in another person's house. :tiphat:
How would they know?
Is your rule with your friends based not upon mutual respect but whether you'll be caught?
My rule is to not feel guilty about carrying a firearm. Respect has nothing to do with it. Unless I believed I was doing something inherently threatening or wrong, I feel no need to divulge what I am doing in any situation. You ask the question as if you are on a higher plain than I. Believe me, I am every bit as honorable as you. Maybe more so. :tiphat:
UH OH....

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