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by Oldgringo
Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:23 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17553

Re: Healthcare Passes

boomerang wrote:Depends what kind of prison I suppose.
Surely, you don't think that the very people who would try the mastermind of the 911 attacks in a civil court in NEW YORK CITY or appoint an Income Tax Evader Secretary of the Treasury would put a mere insurance evader into more than a federal prison. Good Grief!

EDIT:

Attack date corrected thanks to er, uh, well...you know?
by Oldgringo
Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:06 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17553

Re: Healthcare Passes

Kythas wrote: Failure to pay the penalties and interest assessed by the IRS will subject you to prison time under current tax law.
On the bright side, prisoners get 3 squares a day, room and board, free medical, dental, hearing and vision care plus do not have to pay property taxes, school taxes or worry about the price of diesel and somebody else will take care of the family. They also have PT facilities, free CATV, internet and library facilities. Last rite expenses are also no longer a concern.

What's the problem?
by Oldgringo
Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:55 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17553

Re: Healthcare Passes

Kythas wrote:
"Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case.You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish, than to live as slaves." - Winston Churchill
I'll see your quote and raise you one:

There is an ancient Chinese proverb, "When in danger or doubt, run in circles - scream and shout". In that vein, Sir Winston knew who the enemy was when he spake of the Island Nation's upcoming fight with Nazi Germany.

The so-called health Bill has passed the house. I'm merely suggesting that we follow the wisdom of the ancient Chinese proverb and as Sir Winston intoned, identify the unacceptable (the enemy) parts of this bill before we take to the streets in open revolt erstwhile jousting at windwills.

Granted, the shenanigans employed to pass the bill are deplorable and shameful but that is just politics as usual. Perhaps congressional term limits and abolishing Civil Service would help cleanse the governmental playing field?
by Oldgringo
Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:42 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17553

Re: Healthcare Passes

chabouk wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:Other than possible constitutional questions and the obvious nefarious political chicanery (practiced by both parties), why do y'all have your bowels in an uproar? The folk who passed this bill don't know what's in it so why don't we wait until we have it unfolded and understood by all before we take to the streets?
Isn't that reason enough to be in an uproar?
While we're waiting, ask your parents, aunts, uncles and grandparents how Social Security and Medicare is working out for them.
Yet more reason to be strongly opposed.
Well, a long time, many moons, ago I tried holding my breath when things didn't go to suit me. That didn't change much except the color of my lips. This bill has passed the house. Now we must wait and see where it goes from here. In the meantime, perhaps protesting until one turns blue in the face may make a difference somewhere?
by Oldgringo
Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:22 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Healthcare Passes
Replies: 151
Views: 17553

Re: Healthcare Passes

Other than possible constitutional questions and the obvious nefarious political chicanery (practiced by both parties), why do y'all have your bowels in an uproar? The folk who passed this bill don't know what's in it so why don't we wait until we have it unfolded and understood by all before we take to the streets?

While we're waiting, ask your parents, aunts, uncles and grandparents how Social Security and Medicare is working out for them. No, I did not vote for Obama. I've voted for every Republican POTUS candidate starting with, and since, Goldwater.

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