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Venus Pax wrote:

austin wrote:The General can be a leader of young men here, something he is capable of doing. He is obviously there every day and can be a force for good in these young men's lives.

Or he can sweep the problem under the rug and suffer the consequences.

He can choose one or the other.

IMHO, he needs to befriend the young men and then mold them.

Befriending these kids would have been the ounce of prevention before the problems started. If he steps in and takes a gentle approach now, these adolescents are going to escalate. Undisciplined adolescents tend to mistake kindness for weakness.

I have seen many situations where a male teen's behavior was tempered by an older male in the child's life, but it only worked because this individual was present before trouble ever started.

Other than contacting the agencies that deal with these issues, I can't see a real out for this guy. The person that recommended alarm systems & surveillance cameras gave good advice.

On my campus, we get anonymous calls every so often about kids in our zone causing mischief during the school day. If they are enrolled, the officer picks them up. If not, he begins an investigation as to why they are in the area if they are not enrolled in school.
I'm guessing this isn't procedure in other areas.

Out here in the boonies where everybody pretty much knows everybody else, you go to the police station and file and sign a complaint. If the police don't follow up, you tell 'em about it (call 'em at every infraction) until they do. Perhaps in the big cities, a little publicity from the media will get the police to do their jobs if they don't follw up on the complaint/s?

In any event, no one should be terrorized by a bunch of punk kids for any reason!

nils wrote:Hey Oldgringo....what did you use to cover up the gas trail from their property to your garage???

You know, we were in Colorado at the time of the fire and my fishing buddy called and asked how I did that from 1,000 miles away. Well, we didn't but we sure don't miss them either. The sherriff told my wife that the BFUM paid cash for the house from a car wreck claim and didn't have any insurance. Did I mention dumb BFUM? Good riddance!

I don't reckon she had any insurance on the single wide she came from either.

We had a similar situation next door. There was a 3 and 14 year old girl living there with a big fat ugly momma (BFUM) who wanted to be their friends. Again, there was no daddy. The 14 year old had 5-7 live-in boyfriends (at the same time) when her BFUM was at home and/or when she was away. These 5-7 boys in their pick ups were trespassing in our yard and creating a nuisance in general. We filed a complaint with the police, called the school, told the sherrif and a couple of preachers as well as the mayor and city manager. BTW, this is a nice neighborhood with nice houses, etc., etc.

What happened was NOTHING until this summer when we received a call that the house next door was on fire. Apparently, the little girl set the MBR on fire while the boys were lined up with the 14 year old in another part of the house. Now, no one lives there and that's fine with us.

This is a really tough situation. My suggestion would be to force the police to become involved by filing complaint/s and also try to get the taxpayer supported shool district involved. There are truancy laws as well as misdemeanor and felony violations that can all come into play. CPS isn't going to be much help because they are still hiding from that debacle with the so called religious cult near San Angelo (or wherever) last year.

Good Luck.