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Is it just me or did it seem that the Republicans didn't want to win this term? After such a pitiful effort, I've concluded that they didn't want any part of the economy or the wars or anything else that Dubya and the 6 of 8 years of Republican controlled legislature had their hands on/in. The Repubs chose instead to let the Dems win and try to sort out the various existing fiascos so that they could point their fingers in 2012.

Before anyone comes running with either rails or stakes for our heresy, we voted for McMain and Palin...anyway.

boomerang wrote:As a renter who pays my rent on time, I'm more responsible than the property "owners" who are late on their mortgage payments.

I'm millions of times more responsible than the home "owners" who are begging for government bailouts. It's bad enough they got a tax break for having a mortgage and I was forced to subsidize their house when the market was good but it will be even worse if they get government help (aka WELFARE) to pay their mortgage.

The money is going to come out of the pockets of responsible renters who don't get tax breaks.

The operative word is "responsible". Where is the accountability - from top to bottom and bottom to top?

TheArmedFarmer wrote:

Liberty wrote:Certain landowners were. I don't believe most black folks liked the system much in those days. I personally find the idea that only property owners are responsible was pretty silly. I just wish the ignorant were smart enough to understand they don't know enough to vote.

An excellent point, one that I didn't consider until now. Unfair racial issues aside, property ownership is probably the most reasonable "are you responsible enough to vote" litmus test there was/is.

Well said.

Now comes the nationwide current castrophe of unqualified buyers being given unsubstantiated loans by greedy and/or unscrupulous lendors. Who is the least responsible in this scenario - lendor or borrower?

Where was the government, where is the accountability, where is common sense?

Liberty wrote:

TheArmedFarmer wrote:

bryang wrote:This is the thing that really gets my goat about elections. They drag people in from anywhere by the bus loads and sign them up and take them to the polls and tell them where to put the x. They have no idea of what they are doing...they have been told what to do and they do it!

Yep. This is one reason the framers decided that only land owners could vote, and each household got only one vote. You had to demonstrate a certain kind of responsibility before voting. We were probably a little better off back then due to that policy.

Certain landowners were. I don't believe most black folks liked the system much in those days. I personally find the idea that only property owners are responsible was pretty silly. I just wish the ignorant were smart enough to understand they don't know enough to vote.

As a homeowner, I get to pay property taxes so non-property owners (red and yellow, black/brown and white...renters) can send their kids to schools that my kids or grandkids have never, nor will ever attend. Nowadays, the above non-property owners also get to vote. BTW, I've seen no sign of a forthcoming credit/refund, etc. for making my payments and finally paying off our modest house.

Is this a great country or what?

I am totally disgusted with all of them - Democrats and Republicans alike. Shame on all of them!

This country did not get in the shape it's in last week, last month or last year. The US government has failed the American people and it started many years/administrations ago. These elected self-serving sodomites (Republicans and Democrats alike) have spent their entire terms serving themselves, each other and their special interests rather than the USA. Did I mention that I'm .

I say fire all 545 of them and let's start over!

Footnote:
House of Reps 435
Senate 100
Supreme Crt 9
President 1
Total 545