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rotor wrote:

jmorris wrote:

rotor wrote:

jmorris wrote:That is exactly it. By purchasing a ticket you are agreeing not to carry at any SXSW event. If you haven't and only attend the free events where purchase of a ticket is not required then you haven't agreed to anything and are free to carry. IMHO, IANAL, etc.

Is there some preconceived notice that says that purchasing a ticket binds you to not carry? I think they should ban alcohol and drunk drivers (or more likely other drugs since it's Austin) from mowing down people in the streets of Austin. No ticket purchase necessary.

It's not a preconceived notice, it's in the terms and conditions that you agree to when you purchase your tickets. Just like you agree that "By attending and/or participating in the Events, each Participant hereby grants SXSW permission to use the Participant’s photograph, image, likeness, voice and statements for any purpose, including but not limited to commercial purposes, without compensation or credit to the Participant, in any and all media now known or hereafter devised." you agree that "SXSW is a private event and has a weapons-free policy. Attending Participants are prohibited from carrying weapons of any kind, including concealed or displayed firearms. Participants are not permitted to bring weapons onto the premises of any official SXSW events. SXSW reserves the right, in its sole discretion, without refund, to deactivate and/or revoke the Credentials of Participants who violate this weapons-free policy. Participant agrees that this policy is in force, and agrees to comply with the policy, regardless of whether signs prohibiting weapons are posted at the premises of any official SXSW event."

jmorris, I went to the home site, http://www.sxsw.com/ and without providing my personal info or credit card I went into the process of buying a ticket. This took me to the shopping cart where I could spend a lot of money on a ticket and at the bottom of the shopping cart there was a terms of use site to go to. Nowhere in this did it say anything about being a weapon free zone. I did not complete the purchase as... who cares. My point is that I did not see anything before they took my money and provided me a ticket that contracted me to being weapon free. I did not complete the process so perhaps further down the line it may have showed up but to the casual user of the site, especially if you go from main site to cart there was no warning given. So where is the contract? Not obvious to me. I even typed in the following into their search at the main site, "weapons", "weapons-free", "guns" and it did not bring up their policy. To be honest, I don't know how the OP found the page he did. It was not obvious to me from their main page.

NotRPB wrote:

LucasMcCain wrote:

rotor wrote:

jmorris wrote:That is exactly it. By purchasing a ticket you are agreeing not to carry at any SXSW event. If you haven't and only attend the free events where purchase of a ticket is not required then you haven't agreed to anything and are free to carry. IMHO, IANAL, etc.

Is there some preconceived notice that says that purchasing a ticket binds you to not carry? I think they should ban alcohol and drunk drivers (or more likely other drugs since it's Austin) from mowing down people in the streets of Austin. No ticket purchase necessary.

Yeah, private businesses can impose all kinds of crazy restrictions if you have to buy a ticket to enter. Check out the prohibited items section on the House of Blues Dallas website. They have some really weird stuff in there. Last time I went, they made me empty my pockets and then patted me down. I was not amused.

Businesses on Privately owned property can
Who owns the property is a determining factor, City of Dallas owns the property where the Texas State Fair is, and State Fair is run by a "private company" on public city property and cannot ban guns on the city owned property. As Charles stated once the person/business leasing the property would not have more rights than the one who owns it and leased it to them had... IOW, you can't lease to someone something which you do not have.

rotor wrote:

jmorris wrote:That is exactly it. By purchasing a ticket you are agreeing not to carry at any SXSW event. If you haven't and only attend the free events where purchase of a ticket is not required then you haven't agreed to anything and are free to carry. IMHO, IANAL, etc.

Is there some preconceived notice that says that purchasing a ticket binds you to not carry? I think they should ban alcohol and drunk drivers (or more likely other drugs since it's Austin) from mowing down people in the streets of Austin. No ticket purchase necessary.