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by AJSully421
Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:12 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin City Limits Festival
Replies: 47
Views: 11085

Re: Austin City Limits Festival

Soap wrote:So I will record my way in. If I see any signs I should report them?
I'd say no, it would be a private entity posting and the OAG will take 6 months to decide to do nothing about it. This will delay cases of actual wrongdoing by other cities for even longer than the current sub-snail pace.
by AJSully421
Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:06 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin City Limits Festival
Replies: 47
Views: 11085

Re: Austin City Limits Festival

AustinNative04 wrote:
TexasTornado wrote:

Except for that pesky line that states you can't exclude an LTC Holder on criminal trespass simply for having a weapon.
I think I’m following your point—but correct me if I’m missing it. I recognize that this is park land, and generally speaking, a government entity couldn't exclude an LTC from a park solely for having a lawful firearm.

But, in this situation, Zilker Park is temporarily under the control of a private entity for purposes of the festival. Remember, access is controlled with fences and gates. I believe the LTC would be excluded for violating the terms and conditions of the license--terms set by the private entity, not the City.
So, here is where this gets to be fun.... if the private event promoter decides that you have "violated the terms of your contract / ticket", specifically for carrying a handgun with a license in a public park... who is going to come and throw you out?

Private security in Texas cannot lay a finger on you, they can only observe and report... so they cannot toss you and they cannot arrest you. If they call the real cops, they cannot use 30.05 to remove you because of 30.05(f) and they cannot use 30.06 because the event is occurring in a city owned park. So, the cops cannot touch you unless you are acting crazy, swearing, or being abusive.

No one can legally touch you if they find that you have a licensed handgun.

What will happen next is they will invite some high school marching band to play and try to call the whole thing a "School sponsored event" and restrict carry that way.

All the more reason that every off-limits place needs to be exempted for LTCers.

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