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Lynyrd wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:This. Any political subdivision who is found to be in violation will have each of its principal employees (the mayor and city council, city managers, county commissioners, library board members... any and all of them) shall be fined $10,000 each.

Easy now. I'm a city council member, and I should not be held responsible for the votes of others on the council.



And for the record, we don't have any signs.

I am not picking on you here, just using this as an example:

It is not so much a matter of who votes how; we need some Paul Reveres in these elected offices at every level. It's not that hard, stand up and say "Cut the crap!". Instead of some elected official saying how they should not be held responsible for the actions of others, how about you TAKE responsibility for the illegal actions of those other members who are acting as mini tyrants?

If a sign is put up illegally, YOU go rip it down, or you get the crud fined out of you. They put letters on the glass, YOU go get a razor blade. They bolt metal signs to the brick work out in front of city hall, YOU bust out a socket wrench. They put a 30.06 up on an easel in the hallway, YOU go toss that sonofagun in the dumpster out back.

I swear, when the AG gets off their duff and finds the City of Benbrook to be in violation on their signs, I will go in there and take down the signs myself. Worst they can do is Class C Criminal Mischief for removing a sign that is less than $100 in value. Come and get me.

Vol Texan wrote:

Abraham wrote:mojo84,

I get the impression the various governmental law breakers aren't in the slightest concerned about going to court.

Perhaps, they think such cases will drag out for so long, the law will get changed in their favor, so they're going to do whatever...maybe...

Abraham,

I have to agree with you here. Perhaps, instead of penalties paid by the offending governing agency to another government agency, it could be changed such that the individuals responsible for making the decision to place the sign could be held personally financially responsible for that decision. That might make them less willing to stick their neck out for the cause.

Or, perhaps instead of the AG filing suit and collecting the money for the state, it could be made such that individual citizens could file personal suits and get compensated by the offending local government. That wouldn't sent to fight these cases to move forward rather quickly, I bet.

Perhaps a combination of both above would be best of all.

This. Any political subdivision who is found to be in violation will have each of its principal employees (the mayor and city council, city managers, county commissioners, library board members... any and all of them) shall be fined $10,000 each. If the fine is not paid within 30 days of being levied, the individual shall be removed from office and prohibited from ever seeking any elected or appointed government office in Texas.

Either take down the signs, or resign before you are found to be in violation.

Right here in our little town of Benbrook, they had a city council meeting to remove a line in the city ordinances that prohibited carrying firearms in city parks. One member asked if they could just ignore the state and pay the penalty, and that it would be a small price to pay to keep guns out of the parks... It is more widespread that most of us know.

Screw these tyrants at every level.