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by mgood
Tue May 01, 2012 5:47 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: New Mexico Drops Several States Including Texas
Replies: 60
Views: 15250

Re: New Mexico Drops Several States Including Texas

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Thomas wrote:First, do any of y'all know if there is a New Mexico gun forum? I can't find one.

When it comes to concealed carry, is there a difference between having a gun in a holster on my body and having it in a locked container in my possession? As far as I know, there is no difference in Texas, but is there in New Mexico? I will be flying into the Albuquerque airport, taking a shuttle, and checking the container into a safe.
I have been unable to find a New Mexico specific gun forum either, but I have found lots of references on various "national" level forums like at "concealedcarry.com" and so on.

I was actually (favorably) surprised that Texas' MPA permitted on-body concealed carry inside the vehicle for non-CHL-holders when it passed.....suprised simply because it is the natural inclination of all governments to hem in the rights of the governed, and allowing on-body concealed carry under MPA inside a vehicle seemed like a pretty liberal (as in "liberty," not "leftist") interpretation of the rights of man for a governmental entity.....compared to other states' governmental entities.

But exactly because of this distinction, I would make sure to clarify that issue with regard to New Mexico law. Traveling with a firearm in the car may be restricted to off-body, and it wouldn't surprise me—given NM's leftist tendencies—if that were the intent of the law. As with most legislatures, rightly or wrongly, there is seldom ever any profit in flirting with legislative intent. That's the road that usually leads to further restrictions, not further liberties.

Although I have no intentions (yet) of traveling through NM any time through the rest of this year, I'm going to call the governor's office anyway and register my intent to NEVER travel through NM again until the situation is rectified.
No restrictions (to the best of my knowledge) on how you carry inside your vehicle in NM. (I don't mean waving it around while you drive, I mean whether it's on you or somewhere else in the vehicle.)
I am not a lawyer.
I did spend 10 months working in a gun store in Hobbs, NM where we daily discussed firearms laws. Many of our regulars who took part in such discussions included LEOs, retired LEOs, lawyers, and NM instructors.



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While looking for something else, I found this on the New Mexico DPS website:
http://www.dps.nm.org/index.php/nm-conc ... greements/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Important – Please Read

In response to several inquiries, it is important to clarify information relating to the Department of Public Safety’s audit of other states’ concealed carry statutes.

First, it is important to note that the Department of Public Safety has not made final decisions to change reciprocity agreements or recognition of other states, but rather DPS is conducting an audit of those statutes to ensure compliance with New Mexico state law.

The information on this web page differentiates those states that have concealed carry laws that are substantially similar to New Mexico’s law (or more stringent) from those that do not. For those states that have had reciprocity agreements with New Mexico, but do not now have a similar law to ours, NM DPS will contact those states to clarify which permit holders from that state are not allowed to carry a concealed weapon in New Mexico. This will not affect the vast majority of permit holders in states with current reciprocity agreements.

For example, if New Mexico currently has a reciprocity agreement with a particular state that allows individuals under age 21, non-citizens, and/or individuals convicted of violent crimes to obtain a concealed carry permit, then NM DPS will work to adjust the reciprocity agreement to clarify to that state’s permit holders that they can carry a concealed weapon in New Mexico so long as they are a U.S. Citizen, over 21 years of age, and not convicted of disqualifying violent crimes.
So this may not really be an issue for most of us after all.
by mgood
Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:58 am
Forum: Other States
Topic: New Mexico Drops Several States Including Texas
Replies: 60
Views: 15250

Re: New Mexico Drops Several States Including Texas

This is bad. I live 15 miles from New Mexico and spend almost as much time there as I do in Texas.
I finally get around to renewing my Texas CHL and now New Mexico will no longer accept it? :grumble

This is a huge step backwards for them in reciprocity. Reciprocity is two-way. Lots of states may dump NM because of this. It would not surprise me if NM gun owners make themselves heard in the next election and all this turns right back around.
(Then again, NM politics are so goofy, who knows?)

Oh well, open carry is still legal in New Mexico.
They have no problem with vehicle carry with or without a license.
Getting caught in NM carrying concealed without a license is no more serious than getting a ticket for not using your turn signal.

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