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OldAg wrote:I'm new to the board so hopefully this post is not a breach of protocol. I previously posted this question to an old link and it would be better on this one.

Slightly off topic, but related: The City of Dallas also owns the property where the Dallas Arboretum is located. When I visited it last month, I noticed that it is now posted with a 30.06 signs at the main entrance and at the entrance from the garage parking. I have since sent a letter (with pictures) to the city manager asking that the signs be removed (thanks to Charles for providing the template).

I faxed the letter last week and I expect the first class mail to get to them this week. I haven't heard from them (and don't expect to). Hopefully, the signs get removed and I won't need to follow up. However, as soon as I confirm that they are not going to remove them, I have all the documentation ready to send to the AG. My problem is that I am over 100 miles away. Is there anyone that will be going to the Dallas Arboretum in the next few weeks? If so, would they let me know if the signs are still posted?

AJSully421 wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

gljjt wrote:What am I missing? Even if it is amusement park, since it is owned the City of Dallas, it is not off limits for carry. The sign is irrelevant.

If otherwise off limits under 46.03 or 46.035 city owned premises can post 30.06. Example: City owned Hospital.

Except for the fact that some places (hospitals, churches, amusement parks) were effectively removed from 46 by subsection (i) by saying that 30.06 is required to exclude them. This law compounds that by preventing a city from posting 30.06.

It is not circular logic, a city cannot post those noted in (i).

SB273 creates a fine for a governmental entity that posts an unenforceable 30.06 sign. TPC §30.06(e) states that 30.06 signs on governmental property are unenforceable unless that property is already off-limits under §§46.03 or 46.035. Amusement parks and hospitals are off-limits per §46.035(b)(5) & (6), respectfully.

Therefore, governments can post enforceable 30.06 signs on hospitals and amusement parks. There are no government churches.

Chas.

Even though it says it is not off limits if there is not a 30.06 posted? Even more reason why we need a bill to remove those locations entirely.

AJSully421 wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

gljjt wrote:What am I missing? Even if it is amusement park, since it is owned the City of Dallas, it is not off limits for carry. The sign is irrelevant.

If otherwise off limits under 46.03 or 46.035 city owned premises can post 30.06. Example: City owned Hospital.

Except for the fact that some places (hospitals, churches, amusement parks) were effectively removed from 46 by subsection (i) by saying that 30.06 is required to exclude them. This law compounds that by preventing a city from posting 30.06.

It is not circular logic, a city cannot post those noted in (i).