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by Charles L. Cotton
Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:12 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR15
Replies: 135
Views: 11789

Re: MISTRIAL in Ft. Hood soldier's case for carrying AR15

EEllis wrote:
C-dub wrote:
EEllis wrote:I don't see RS being affected by whatever Grisham is comfortable with.
And I am unaware of any law that dictates whether a rifle can or cannot be carried across one's front or back. Just because an officer doesn't like something doesn't make it illegal. Or does it?
Remember we are not talking about if it was legal but rather if there was RS, two separate subjects. Activities that are completely legal an provide RS.

But, in a manner of speaking it could. If "people" find that manner of carry alarming and courts find that alarm reasonable then ......
I've tried to stay out of this discussion, but it's killing me! A LEO must have reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed, not that someone doesn't like what another is doing. Carrying a rifle is not unlawful, except in certain prohibited areas.

Pretext stops are lawful, but it should not be so. They are nothing but a method of violating the constitution. LEOs argue that it empowers them to prevent certain crimes and while possibly true, it comes at far too high of a price.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:15 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR15
Replies: 135
Views: 11789

Re: MISTRIAL in Ft. Hood soldier's case for carrying AR15

SA-TX wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
E.Marquez wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Is this the same Grisham that heads Open Carry Texas?

Chas.
Yes Sir
Oh this is just lovely! Open Carry Texas is getting press coverage and TV news spots and now their leader has been convicted not of a gun-related crime, but of interfering with a peace officer or some such charge. We all know how the media will spin this and they'll do it with a big smile on their collective faces.

From what I know about the case, Mr. Grisham wasn't violating any law and I have no doubt the ultimate charge was trumped up. Unfortunately, none of that matters in the political and legislative arenas because only a relative handful of people will both know and/or believe it. So our job of convincing the general public that they have nothing to fear from CHLs carrying handgun openly is harder, perhaps much harder. Ever since I got involved in Second Amendment issues in 1980 (CHL specifically), I have made a point not to do or get involved with anything that would give even the appearance of impropriety because the media would have a field day. More importantly, it would hurt the cause and everyone supporting it. Jim Baker is a great example. He was neither a Christian nor a pastor, he was a thief, but atheists were quick to point to him as proof that all Christian leaders are frauds. Unfortunately, perception is paramount.

I'm not at all happy about the conviction, because as an attorney I know full well how a person can be railroaded by a hot-headed LEO and unscrupulous prosecutors. But I'm even more upset that someone put themselves in a position that will hurt legislative efforts.

Chas.
Yes I think many here are hoping it doesn't have negative ramifications for the next legislative session. Honestly, the coverage of the open carry events seems to have Texas politicians paying attention and in a positive way. AG Abbott has been vocal about his support for it. Lt. Gov Dewhurst has, reportedly, said he thinks we need some form of it.Todd Staples was quoted as being favor, too. The source was the Examiner from a day or two ago (hopefully someone can post a link to it). Perhaps we can make lemonade out of lemons?

SA-TX
The TV coverage of the demonstrations in the Houston area is universally negative, as were the man-on-the-street interviews during the 2011 and 2013 legislative sessions. Greg Abbott, Jerry Patterson and Sen. Patterson have come out in support of open-carry in spite of the negative news coverage, not because of it.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:55 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR15
Replies: 135
Views: 11789

Re: MISTRIAL in Ft. Hood soldier's case for carrying AR15

E.Marquez wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Is this the same Grisham that heads Open Carry Texas?

Chas.
Yes Sir
Oh this is just lovely! Open Carry Texas is getting press coverage and TV news spots and now their leader has been convicted not of a gun-related crime, but of interfering with a peace officer or some such charge. We all know how the media will spin this and they'll do it with a big smile on their collective faces.

From what I know about the case, Mr. Grisham wasn't violating any law and I have no doubt the ultimate charge was trumped up. Unfortunately, none of that matters in the political and legislative arenas because only a relative handful of people will both know and/or believe it. So our job of convincing the general public that they have nothing to fear from CHLs carrying handgun openly is harder, perhaps much harder. Ever since I got involved in Second Amendment issues in 1980 (CHL specifically), I have made a point not to do or get involved with anything that would give even the appearance of impropriety because the media would have a field day. More importantly, it would hurt the cause and everyone supporting it. Jim Baker is a great example. He was neither a Christian nor a pastor, he was a thief, but atheists were quick to point to him as proof that all Christian leaders are frauds. Unfortunately, perception is paramount.

I'm not at all happy about the conviction, because as an attorney I know full well how a person can be railroaded by a hot-headed LEO and unscrupulous prosecutors. But I'm even more upset that someone put themselves in a position that will hurt legislative efforts.

Chas.
by Charles L. Cotton
Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:22 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR15
Replies: 135
Views: 11789

Re: MISTRIAL in Ft. Hood soldier's case for carrying AR15

Is this the same Grisham that heads Open Carry Texas?

Chas.

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