v-rog wrote:I believe this thread violates forum rule #11. Please correct me if I am mistaken, but this is a post that has explicit and implicit religious tones.
The whole thread doesn't but the recent posts do.
Let's get back on track; it's not about religion or the difference between religions. It's about threats to the U.S.
AndyC wrote:From what I understand, he was sentenced to death for apostasy - not so much for being Christian as it was for renouncing his original faith in the first place. I imagine he'd be facing the same issue if he had become a Buddhist (not that he'd take much comfort in that, I imagine).
You are correct that the charge included apostasy, but it was also because he was a Christian.
suthdj wrote:It is sad that they feel the need for a death penalty. However when you travel outside the US you are subject to the laws and court decisions of the host country and justice is not always the first concern. If christianity is illegal in Iran then he should not have been practicing it. I am not a biblical expert by any means but I believe the bible says something about obeying the laws of man.
The point is a Muslim country is killing someone solely because he is a Christian. So much for the argument that Americans and other Christians are murdered solely by "extremists perverting Islam."
I'm not going to get into a discussion of religion, but the Bible teaches to obey the laws of the land, so long as they do not violate the laws of God.
Chas.
I never said it was right. But we have to respect the laws of a host nation just as we expect visitors to respect ours. He went there and did what he did knowing what could happen and is going to pay the ultimate price, his life. I have to think he did this full well knowing what could happen.
You're missing my point. Many claim that Islam is a peaceful religion that doesn't condone murder. This event (and countless others in other Muslim countries where people are murdered simply because they are Christians) proves that is not true and that the claim is designed to give Americans a false sense of security. America supports Israel therefore Americans are infidels who need to be destroyed. America is a Christian country, in spite of what many will argue, so we are infidels who need to be destroyed. American citizens are being recruited to conduct terrorist attacks right here at home. Major Nadal Hasan murdered 13 people and wounded 29 more at Fort Hood. He was an American, not a foreigner, who wanted to kill the infidel. Richard Reid is an American recruited to blow up an American airliner loaded with infidels with a shoe bomb. The list goes on and it's going to get larger.
Where is the outcry from the Muslim world? Why isn't Aljazeera screaming about this atrocity? I just ran a search for "Youcef Nadarkhani" on the English version of Aljazeera and the result was "no pages found." What!? Of course, there was plenty about U.S. aid to the Palestinians being in danger, and the radical Christians in the Republican Party. Why is it we can turn on the news and not see throngs of peaceful Muslims chanting and protesting in front of the Iranian Embassy demanding that this Christian pastor not be murdered? Why? I think Lt. Col. Allen tells us why.
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Some will argue that I'm discussing religion in violation of our rules, but I am not. I'm talking about terrorists and their recruiting and support structure. You could substitute "Mexican drug cartel" for "Islam" and the discussion would be the same, threats to Americans.
suthdj wrote:It is sad that they feel the need for a death penalty. However when you travel outside the US you are subject to the laws and court decisions of the host country and justice is not always the first concern. If christianity is illegal in Iran then he should not have been practicing it. I am not a biblical expert by any means but I believe the bible says something about obeying the laws of man.
The point is a Muslim country is killing someone solely because he is a Christian. So much for the argument that Americans and other Christians are murdered solely by "extremists perverting Islam."
I'm not going to get into a discussion of religion, but the Bible teaches to obey the laws of the land, so long as they do not violate the laws of God.
This isn't the act of a radical terrorist perverting Islam. It's murder by the Iranian government, undoubtedly with the strong approval of so-called Muslim clerics. Peace and understanding my foot.
In a ruling from the Iranian Supreme Court obtained by FoxNews.com, Nadarkhani was sentenced to execution by hanging for breaking Islamic law by conducting Christian worship and baptizing himself and others.