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We are on page 10 of the latest thread dealing with open-carry. We don't lock threads just because they are plowing the same ground over and over again, so feel free to keep posting. I mean that sincerely; it's not intended as a snide comment.

However, the Moderators have noticed that the "temperature" of this thread is rising, everything that could be said has been said multiple times and no one is going to change anyone's mind on this very hot topic. It's obvious by the tenor of some posts that the frustration level is rising and this is fertile ground for personal attacks. Please don't let that happen or this thread will be locked.

Chas.

frankie_the_yankee wrote:. . . 2) In this thread, I have been smeared by the claim that I would be happy to see Obama elected president. If I did something like that, I'd probably be threatened with being thrown off the board. But it seems to be OK for others to do that to me. Like I said, it doesn't really bother me too much, because it reflects more on the people who would make statements like that than it does on me.

The comment about you liking President Obama isn't close to smearing, nor is it close to comments you have previously made that that resulted in complaints to the Moderators. Knock it off.

Chas.

I was planning to stay out of it this time around, but a comment made by one of the Utah instructors in the Utah CFP instructor class I took last Saturday is worthy of mention. Utah allows open carry of a loaded handgun, if you have a Concealed Firearms Permit. If you don't have a CFP, you can open-carry an unloaded handgun. (Unloaded would be a semi-auto with no round in the chamber, or a revolver with the first two chambers in the cylinder empty.)

However, it is very rare for anyone to be seen open-carrying in the larger cities like Salt Lake. Even though it is lawful, on the rare occasions when people do, the police almost always get a "man with a gun" call and they have to respond. If no crime is being committed, then the person is allowed to leave, but they were temporarily detained nonetheless.

I have traveled extensively throughout the country for 25 years or so and I can count on one hand the number of people I have seen open-carrying without a badge on their belt. Yes, it is legal in a number of states, but it sure doesn't seem to be commonplace. There is a reason for that.

Chas.

drw wrote:

DaveT wrote:everyone in Texas being able to wear a gun openly without any sort of license or formal training will never fly

How can you confidently assert that, when it is "flying" in other states just fine. Or do you have such a low opinion of Texans, that we cannot handle the kind of freedoms that other states have enjoyed for years?

I'm not DaveT, but I don't view his statement as having "a low opinion of Texans, . . ." Rather, it a statement of political reality in Texas. The Dallas County DA and others are going to try to "modify" unlicensed car-carry in the 2009 Texas legislative session, so unlicensed open-carry in Texas isn't going to happen.

Chas.