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by The Annoyed Man
Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: New AR build keyholing
Replies: 12
Views: 25684

Re: New AR build keyholing

bobby wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:16 pm Yep The Can I bet. Baffle strikes are not needed to upset a bullets flight. Make sure can is tight Fire 3 rounds check for keyholing if keyholing then take off can put a shim on and reapply the can. Test fire again. try this 3 or 4 times to see if it stops
Also, there’s a way to check if the barrel threads are concentric to the bore (I have one rifle on which they are not), and that’s with a bore alignment rod: https://www.surefire.com/products/suppr ... ment-rods/.

Insert the rod into your bore at the muzzle end. Attach the suppressor by passing the bore of the can over the rod and then threading the can onto the muzzle. The tip of the rod protruding past the end of the suppressor will show you if the threads—and therefore the suppressor—are concentric to the bore. The OD of the end that goes into the muzzle is exactly the ID of the lands of the rifling inside the muzzle. The OD of the portion that protrudes from the barrel is exactly the caliber dimension. So the one I have for my .308 rifles is .308” at the end that protrudes from the endcap of the suppressor, and very slightly smaller than that at the end that inserts into the muzzle. This is what made it impossible for me ultimately to continue trying to suppress my Ruger Gunsight Scout. The misalignment didn’t hurt my AAC 762-SDN-6, but it caused a pretty severe baffle/endcap strike on my Form 1 can which is about 2.5” longer. And even before the baffle strike, it really threw off the rifle's inherent accuracy.
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by The Annoyed Man
Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: New AR build keyholing
Replies: 12
Views: 25684

Re: New AR build keyholing

Weg wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:17 pm Thanks for all the feedback : it's a 1 in 9 twist, I have tried 2 different kinds of ammo in it, 55 grain reloads, and 62 grain S. African Ball which shoots great in all my other AR's. The crown looks good, and the barrel bore is 5.56. One major thing I omitted is that I am test firing it with a direct thread .30 caliber suppressor, which I use on all my other Ar's. I've checked it real well for baffle strikes, and I don't see any, but i'm beginning to think the suppressor is somehow playing into this. I'll have to wait a few weeks to test fire it at a location that I can shoot it without the suppressor, gotta keep the peace with the neighbors, but I will report back once I do that. Thanks
Suppressors can be hit or miss when it comes to their effect on accuracy. (See what I did there?)

Humor aside, that’s absolutely true. Also, have you checked to see if the can loosened even a little bit while shooting? That could have a profound effect.

FYI, all other things being equal, 1:9 and 1:8 twist barrels will be slightly more accurate than a 1:7 barrel, using 55 and 62 grain bullets.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:36 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: New AR build keyholing
Replies: 12
Views: 25684

Re: New AR build keyholing

Have you tried firing other brands of ammo through it? Sometimes poorly manufactured ammo will keyhole out of a perfectly fine rifle that shoots other loads just fine.

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