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philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 12:03 am

wheelgun1958 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:49 pm It wasn't a missile, it was a fuel tank explosion.

Exactly old wiring running through a fuel tank.

And we know this how? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but given the situation at the time, that would be a heck of a coincidence.

iratollah wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:03 pm Jumpy Iranian air defense most likely shot down the plane. Jumpy US forces are careful to not make that mistake again.

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:22 am

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:00 am https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Ira ... ing-613548

Iran will not give black box to Boeing.

They accidentally shot it down?

On purpose since it was Ukraine?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wi ... h-68141823

63 Canadians die in plane crash.

Hey, welcome back! Seven years is a long time. And you’re right....a lot of people forget that we shot down a jet airliner in error off the Iranian coast many moons past, because (as I recall) our ship's radar defense systems mistook the Airbus 300's radar signature for an inbound Iranian Tomcat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

This is getting weird....



I’m fairly certain that Iran’s rockets aren’t accurate enough to pull that off, particularly if fired from more than a mile or two away.

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:25 pm

Alf wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:05 pm Does this mean the United States won't complain when Iran targets US political leaders in response?

Complain? Who knows, escalate probably! U.S. can bring far more varied and powerful weapons than Iran can! They should quit while they can!

I don’t entirely disagree, but consider histories, capabilities, and methods..... the Iranians who have most to fear from America's war-making capabilities and methods are Iran’s leadership and military. The Americans who have the most to fear from Iran’s war-making capabilities and methods are average American civilian citizens. Our nation fights wars primarily through normal military channels. Iran fights wars by proxy through terrorist organizations. We kill enemy combatants, they kill civilians.

Whether or not a war with Iran is winnable (in purely military terms, it absolutely is), and whether or not it’s advisable (that’s legitimately open to question....as should be ANY war), we shouldn’t ignore histories, capabilities, and methods. If they bring even a small terror capability to our shores, it is civilians who’ll pay the price, more so than our military.

I don’t say this to argue one way or the other about a war with Iran. I say it only to caution all of us against getting salty without a thought for consequences.