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by The Annoyed Man
Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:29 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Libtards believe we are all a myth
Replies: 24
Views: 3640

Re: Libtards believe we are all a myth

Beiruty wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
I for one feel mandating training and learning the laws of use of deadly force in order to carry in the public (OC or CC) is not a bad idea.
Take the bolded out and I would agree with you whole-heartedly...
How about instead of "mandate", providing free training, ammo, and teaching the laws of the use of deadly force?
The problem is, none of this is free. Somebody is getting paid to provide the training, and someone is paying them. Someone is paying for the facility. Someone is paying for the electricity and air conditioning (this IS Texas). Etc., etc., etc. I just don't like it when people say something is free, because NOTHING in life is free. When we use the word, we deceive ourselves, and "free" is behind a large part of the national disintegration.

I think it is much better if we say, "the state will provide training, ammo, teaching, etc., and here is how it will be paid for." ONLY then can we have a rational discussion about whether or not this is a good idea.
by The Annoyed Man
Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:10 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Libtards believe we are all a myth
Replies: 24
Views: 3640

Re: Libtards believe we are all a myth

Cold (and thin) soup, warmed over. Folks, this stuff never goes away. We have two more years of this stuff being really ascendent, and it is going to pick up and get more desperate and louder, as January 2017 gets nearer and nearer. This is just the beginning. Get used to it, and fight back.
Cedar Park Dad wrote:libtard, really? You know gun owners come from all backgrounds right? :waiting:
You know, for this reason, I rarely use the term "libtard". I have used it, but I feel the same way about it when I do as I feel about taking God's name in vain. I just now did a word search on that word against my own posts, and found that, out of my 17,355 posts prior to this one, I used the word "libtard" exactly 5 times, without quoting someone else's use of the word. Including quotes of other people in my posts raises the total to 7.

Now that said, and despite the fact that liberals are found among America's gun owners, the FACT remains that virtually ALL attempts to restrict gun ownership originate among liberals, and are fielded by liberal politicians. A parallel observation that is factual is that African-Americans from lower economic brackets overwhelmingly vote for liberal candidates, who when elected, field the policies that those black liberal voters want passed. Those liberal economic policies tend to strangle small businesses, and harm job creation......which hurts black people in lower economic brackets more than it does rich people. Liberal immigration policies which lead to a massive influx of poor workers from other countries further deprive deprive black Americans of job opportunities. So liberal voting patterns which result in greater attempts to restrict gun ownership are as nonsensical for a liberal gun owner as are voting patterns which result in policies that strangle the economy and flood the labor pool with immigrant labor willing to work for peanuts - hurting the American poor and middle class more than they do the rich. It is NOT an accident that the super-rich love Obama. His policies have benefited them greatly. The stock market is booming, but that money is not reaching working-class Americans. It was a liberal President that signed NAFTA, sending the vestiges of America's manufacturing jobs out of the country. Liberal unionists drove the steel industry out of the country. Etc., etc., etc., ad nauseaum. What did they THINK would happen? And now a liberal president is claiming that unemployment is down, despite the fact that the number is nearly double his claimed figure if one counts those who have stopped looking. And his job number increases are padded by claiming low-paying part time jobs at minimum wage levels as "employment" for grown adults with families. His brand of economics has NOT benefited either the poor, or the middle class.

"Liberal economist" is a self-defeating paradigm which harms the poor and middle class and benefits the super-rich.

"Liberal gun owner" is also a self-defeating paradigm which does more harm than good to gun rights. That's kind of retarded. (Yes.... I KNOW that term is not PC, but PC has destroyed the country, so I don't give a tinker's dang about that.)

Modern liberalism (as opposed to classical liberalism which is called libertarianism these days) is a self-defeating paradigm. In fact, it is SO disconnected from the laws of consequences that I will boldly state that it is a mental disease by virtue of being disconnected from reality.

I personally know some liberal gun owners. I like them. They are nice people. But, "liberal gun owners" as a group of people who vote is pretty retarded.

The bottom line is that you can point your finger at almost any gun-control measure passed in the last 100 years, and you will find liberal fingerprints all over it........including the NFA poison pill Hughes Amendment in the 1986 FOPA signed by conservative president Ronald Reagan.....which minus the Amendment was intended to protect traveling gun owners with a law that is routinely violated today by liberal states like NJ and NY and MA.

So when it comes to gun laws, liberals suck......regardless of how many guns they have in their safe.

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