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- Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:15 pm
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Grand. Just grand.
- Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:10 am
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Evolution is a harsh mistress.crazy2medic wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:05 amWith treatment you MIGHT survive, without treatment your 99.9% chance of dying!philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:00 am https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world- ... conspiracy
Ebola outbreak unstoppable as victims refuse treatment. Believe government is behind it.
- Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:59 am
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Clever. I had to actually look that one up.TomsTXCHL wrote:My wife flies thru Chicago O'Hare today, and I can surf for hours on the two planes she's flying into-and-out-of but regardless that is no consolation to me because the ground workers at ORD are exposed to every kind of possibility given the international nature of O'Hare.
We hope better treatment can be found for this disease or it will be dust-to-dust. Does anyone else see the irony of mankind's origins becoming also mankind's end? Yeah I know, some felt that way about AIDS but this spreads a little more easily doesn't it. Maybe AIDS was just a test by TBTWNGCBC.
- Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:38 pm
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I've made this point all along, that he is treating public health as a political patronage and a political problem before he even begins to consider the epidemiological considerations.sjfcontrol wrote:In discussing this on Fox News this afternoon, somebody said Obama doesn't see this as an Ebola problem -- he sees it as a political problem concerning Ebola. So the correct thing to do (from his perspective) is to hire somebody that can solve the political problem. Which is what he did.
More nonsense coming out of Houston...... http://gopthedailydose.com/2014/10/16/j ... epidemic/#
I did not know that Sheila Jackson Lee was an epidemiologist......Jackson Lee and Dems – No Reason To Ban Ebola Travelers Until We Reach An Epidemic
Posted on 16 October, 2014 by Rick Wells
Once again the political debate has come down to a choice between what is best for the American people versus what the Democrats want politically. The fact that the discussion involves a debate over such an obvious threat to the lives of millions of Americans doesn’t enter into the Democrat thought process. They’ve got an open-borders agenda and that, not the citizens of our nation, is what will be protected.
- Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:03 am
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Wonder what Mexico would say if we treated their TB and smallpox patients the same way and refused them entry.....Keith B wrote:Mexico won't even allow anyone who has been potentially exposed to enter. Cruise ship has been turned away http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Health ... 37152.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:43 am
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What we have going on in the White House right now is the political equivalent of an Engine Room fire.sjfcontrol wrote:Yeah, unless they've had an engine-room fire too, the current ship travelers should survive their ordeal without missing a single hors d'oeuvre.The Annoyed Man wrote:Are you kidding me? That's an Ebola breeding ground!sjfcontrol wrote:Stranded on a cruise ship -- Oh, the Horrors! Hope they don't run out of caviar!anygunanywhere wrote:Dallas lab worker quarantined aboard cruise ship, other passengers stranded aboard. Belize refused to allow any passengers to disembark.
Good luck getting a refund. Hope you enjoyed your vacation. Remember this when you vote in November.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/1 ... -stranded/
http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/aboard- ... uise-ship/
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:42 am
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Incompetence? I strenuously disagree. It isn't about incompetence, it is about having and maintaining a certain world-view, no matter the cost.carlson1 wrote:I very seldom disagree with you Keith, but I believe everything the leader of the free world is doing is done on purpose. He is doing everything in his power to make America a third World Country. He has apologized to other Countries for America's dominance and I think this is his way of trying to make us all equal.I just think it is just total incompetence in play. I have seen a lot of this in corporate America.
The affected African nations have closed their borders and contained the spread of the disease. We have not. Those are banana republics, and they understand better than "The Leader of the Free World" how to control a disease? That is not incompetence. THAT is being so wedded to an ideology that you cannot admit when that ideology will kill your own people. Incompetence means that you're too dumb to do the job. This isn't that. This is denial. When denial rises to the point where it kills people, it is evil. Evil is malice. Hanlon's razor is not operant here. This malice is so deep, it doesn't recognize itself.
How many Americans will have to die from an UTTERLY preventable cause before this administration can admit that its POLITICS are the problem? I have to say, that from where I sit right now, I don't think there can ever be enough dead for the evil of this administration's denial to be overcome. They will simply say that they haven't reached far enough in the direction they are already stumbling, and they will put their chins down, tilt their bodies even further in that direction, and rush headlong into the disaster..........blaming it on Bush all the while.
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:19 am
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Are you kidding me? That's an Ebola breeding ground!sjfcontrol wrote:Stranded on a cruise ship -- Oh, the Horrors! Hope they don't run out of caviar!anygunanywhere wrote:Dallas lab worker quarantined aboard cruise ship, other passengers stranded aboard. Belize refused to allow any passengers to disembark.
Good luck getting a refund. Hope you enjoyed your vacation. Remember this when you vote in November.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/1 ... -stranded/
http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/aboard- ... uise-ship/
- Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:15 am
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Fixed it for you.....Excaliber wrote:It may be time to consider that the failure to protect America by the most basic an obvious means, leaving us completely vulnerable to a massive epidemic of a 70% fatal disease, may be the latest element of a deliberate pattern of action intended to seriously damage our country.
It is consistent with bringing tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children with drug resistant tuberculosis and other communicable diseases across the border, distributing them throughout the country as quickly as possible, and then mandating that they be admitted to the schools without proof of vaccination - the same schools our own kids can't get into without the vaccination records.
It is also consistent with sending 4,000 of our remaining combat exhausted troops into the current epidemic's hot zone with no military related mission, no training and no effective protection. The likely consequence of that is not hard to foresee.
Why else would the head of the CDC expose himself to ridicule and calls for resignation by telling the country that Ebola is hard to catch, every hospital in America is well prepared to handle cases, approve a monitored person with a fever to fly on a commercial airline, and refuse to recommend closing our borders to people from infected areas because that might harm the economies of some African nations? Nobody is innocently that dumb.
There's a pattern here that's NOT hard to miss, and it's consistent with many other actions of this administration that have had the effect of weakening the U.S. economically and militarily.
It's ugly and its implications are stark, but I'm having trouble coming up with an alternate explanation for what we see.
Any help with what I may be missing would be appreciated. I could sleep a lot better if I had a credible alternate explanation for this.
....and you are absolutely right. They would rather kill all of us than admit that their policies are bankrupt......
....and thanks to that, we are "this" much closer to a revolution....
I actually hate their guts.
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:59 pm
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African countries saved OUR sorry butts BY CLOSING THEIR BORDERS!!!!
Associated Press: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ ... 6-14-24-38
Associated Press: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ ... 6-14-24-38
Would it kill us to follow the example of a few 3rd world nations in how to control the spread of disease? It just might kill us if we don't.......but Obama and his administration would rather die....excuse me....would rather WE die than THEY admit they've been wrong all along.AFRICA STEMS EBOLA VIA BORDER CLOSINGS, LUCK
BY TOM ODULA AND LYNSEY CHUTEL
ASSOCIATED PRESS
NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -- Health officials battling the Ebola outbreak that has killed more than 4,500 people in West Africa have managed to limit its spread on the continent to five countries - and two of them appear to have snuffed out the disease.
The developments constitute a modest success in an otherwise bleak situation.
Officials credit tighter border controls, good patient-tracking and other medical practices, and just plain luck with keeping Ebola confined mostly to Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea since the outbreak was first identified nearly seven months ago.
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:17 pm
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Another connection of mine intimated that when the death toll among healthcare workers hits a predetermined number which has already being privately discussed, nurses at some DFW area hospitals are going to stop coming to work.sjfcontrol wrote:They said something about personnel issues at the hospital here. Sounds to me like the nursing staff was revolting.
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:07 pm
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By airplane?sjfcontrol wrote:They're going to move the first HC worker to Maryland, today.
- Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:52 am
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I knew about this last Sunday, but was not free to discuss it publicly. A friend is a nurse at one of the DFW area Baylor hospitals. This person told us that in their pre-shift meetings a circular from the CDC was discussed which said that CDC had identified an Ebola strain that spreads by particle-borne transmission. The discussions also said that this epidemic wasn't that strain.baldeagle wrote:It's official. Ebola may be transmitted by airborne particles. Researchers recommend a “powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) with a hood or helmet” that will filter 99.97% of all particles down to 0.3 microns in diameter.
It may well not be, but given the pattern of deliberate obfuscation and good old fashioned incompetence exhibited by both CDC and WHO, I'm not inclined to put much faith in that claim.
All I know is that my wife, son, DIL, and granddaughter are flying out to California in early December, and my tickets are already bought and paid for; but unless this is cleared up by then, I'm having strong reservations about confining my entire family aboard an airplane departing the locus of our national Ebola outbreak.
- Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:08 pm
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Sometimes, a stringent does of Ann Coulter is called for:
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-10-15.html
WE'LL TELL YOU HOW DANGEROUS EBOLA IS AFTER THE ELECTION
October 15, 2014
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-10-15.html
WE'LL TELL YOU HOW DANGEROUS EBOLA IS AFTER THE ELECTION
October 15, 2014
I can find nothing to argue with here.The government told us that national quarantines won't work, but then they quarantine everyone with Ebola -- or who has been near someone with Ebola, such as an entire NBC crew. To me, this suggests that there's some value in keeping people who have been near Ebola away from people who have not.
Quite obviously, the only way to protect Americans is to prevent Ebola from coming here in the first place. The problem isn't that Ebola will leap across oceans to infect Americans; it's that Obama doesn't want to protect Americans.
- Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:28 pm
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Here is an instructive article on the spread of pathogens from sub-saharan Africa to the U.S. Did you know that the public health record of HIV goes back to the 1920s in Africa? I sure didn't: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... -pandemic/.
If AIDS goes back 90 years, what will Ebola look like in the future?
I think we can beat this in terms of it being a health crisis, but.....
....I also think that it's here, and it isn't going away. The only way to avoid a mass die-off is to stop bureaucratic denial, and to start putting the health and safety of American citizens at home ahead of the health and safety of foreign citizens abroad. I am NOT say that we shouldn't help other nations with medical personnel, infrastructure, and materiel. But I AM saying that we have to go back to some older practices we used to take for granted. Ellis Island existed for a reason. Processing immigrants wasn't restricted to just stamping their passports and saying "welcome to the United States". Ellis Island also held quarantine barracks to which immigrants were sent for detention, who were either sick or who came from countries that were known to be having then-current public health issues, until their health status could be determined and it was safe to release them into the American population. I will grant that the facilities were probably unpleasant, and we could do better today, but the principle is the same, and I see no reason why we cannot do the same thing today........other than the curse of political correctness and the activism of such pimples on the heinie of progress as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Unfortunately, wholesale quarantine of Africans from affected countries would be sold as "racism", and more people will have to die before enough people tell the whiners to go get bent and we start handling this in the right way.
If AIDS goes back 90 years, what will Ebola look like in the future?
I think we can beat this in terms of it being a health crisis, but.....
....I also think that it's here, and it isn't going away. The only way to avoid a mass die-off is to stop bureaucratic denial, and to start putting the health and safety of American citizens at home ahead of the health and safety of foreign citizens abroad. I am NOT say that we shouldn't help other nations with medical personnel, infrastructure, and materiel. But I AM saying that we have to go back to some older practices we used to take for granted. Ellis Island existed for a reason. Processing immigrants wasn't restricted to just stamping their passports and saying "welcome to the United States". Ellis Island also held quarantine barracks to which immigrants were sent for detention, who were either sick or who came from countries that were known to be having then-current public health issues, until their health status could be determined and it was safe to release them into the American population. I will grant that the facilities were probably unpleasant, and we could do better today, but the principle is the same, and I see no reason why we cannot do the same thing today........other than the curse of political correctness and the activism of such pimples on the heinie of progress as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Unfortunately, wholesale quarantine of Africans from affected countries would be sold as "racism", and more people will have to die before enough people tell the whiners to go get bent and we start handling this in the right way.