Bingo. And further, it is constructive to offer possible solutions to his dilema. He's just trying to do the right thing.Charles L. Cotton wrote:The OP's question was/is a reasonable inquiry by a new CHL. He was simply asking what is proper etiquette when going armed around other people's children. I applaud his action.shootthesheet wrote:It is not my responsibility to give up my rights so someone else can feel better. It is their responsibility to voice their concerns and not mine to volunteer information to them. I look at it like the posting law for CHL holders. If a person is anti-freedom they have the responsibility to let it be known and I will respect their wishes. Otherwise they have no objections.
Keeping and bearing arms is a right equal to any other and it is time we make that part of our thought process and do away with the lies we have been conditioned to believe. Our social responsibilities end at safety. As long as we are safe and obey the laws we have done all that is necessary to exercise our rights as civilized people. It is not necessary to deny ourselves our God given rights for some very false belief that not to do so would be somehow disrespectful or would in any way deny someone else of their rights. That goes for everyone to include a parent who has a choice to let their kids be around me or not.
Chas.
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- Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:42 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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- Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:01 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying around OPC (Other People's Children)?
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Re: Carrying around OPC (Other People's Children)?
One thing you could do for when you're carrying children is to make up a simple little card to hand to the officer along with your CHL and TDL that says, "I am carpooling children. Some of them are not mine. The ones that are not don't know I'm armed, and I'd very much like to keep it that way." Nobody has to know about it except you and the officer.terryg wrote:Thanks TAM, that makes since - mostly. Given the number of times we play carpool and taxi - it is entirely conceivable that the information could be forced into the open by a routine traffic stop. Even though it is unlikely, it is not so rare that I can convince myself I don't need to be prepared for the consequence of some friend of my children finding out and telling their parents.The Annoyed Man wrote:Well, for one thing, concealed is concealed. No anti-gun parent is going to know I'm carrying, unless I were dumb enough to tell them.
For anther thing, if my own kids are involved, I'd be carrying, regardless of what some other parent thinks. Their kids' safety is important. My own kids' safety is more important. So if they did find out, and they didn't want their kids to ride in my car, that's fine. One less thing...
Both my wife and I carry in church, and I carry on stage during the worship segments. We sit together (both armed) during the first service. During our second services, my wife volunteers with the bambinos. She loves her some bambinos. But since she can't be absolutely certain on any given Sunday that a child won't somehow get into her purse, she disarms before going into the "Creation Land" area and locks her gun in the console of her car. But then she's down on the floor with the little ones (in her classroom, they are all in the 18 month to 2 yr old range) playing with them and so on, so she feels it is safer without the gun then. Even so, After I come off the stage during the second service, I'm usually hanging out on a sofa in the lobby, right outside Creation Land, and I am armed. Nobody is going to harm those kids or my wife if I can help it.
The other scenario, as I mentioned, is when I would be forced to disarm in the car because I am about to enter a school sporting activity to which I have just given rides. The only solutions I can think of is the pretend to forget something in the car on the way in or tell them to go on in and I will follow. Not a huge deal, but a little awkward nonetheless.
If I carry 24/7 (except to work - where I can't even have it in the parking lot - currently), then the 'rides to a school event' scenario will happen - there is no way around it.
If he is a mensch, he'll understand and let it go.
- Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:29 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Carrying around OPC (Other People's Children)?
- Replies: 41
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Re: Carrying around OPC (Other People's Children)?
Well, for one thing, concealed is concealed. No anti-gun parent is going to know I'm carrying, unless I were dumb enough to tell them.
For anther thing, if my own kids are involved, I'd be carrying, regardless of what some other parent thinks. Their kids' safety is important. My own kids' safety is more important. So if they did find out, and they didn't want their kids to ride in my car, that's fine. One less thing...
Both my wife and I carry in church, and I carry on stage during the worship segments. We sit together (both armed) during the first service. During our second services, my wife volunteers with the bambinos. She loves her some bambinos. But since she can't be absolutely certain on any given Sunday that a child won't somehow get into her purse, she disarms before going into the "Creation Land" area and locks her gun in the console of her car. But then she's down on the floor with the little ones (in her classroom, they are all in the 18 month to 2 yr old range) playing with them and so on, so she feels it is safer without the gun then. Even so, After I come off the stage during the second service, I'm usually hanging out on a sofa in the lobby, right outside Creation Land, and I am armed. Nobody is going to harm those kids or my wife if I can help it.
For anther thing, if my own kids are involved, I'd be carrying, regardless of what some other parent thinks. Their kids' safety is important. My own kids' safety is more important. So if they did find out, and they didn't want their kids to ride in my car, that's fine. One less thing...
Both my wife and I carry in church, and I carry on stage during the worship segments. We sit together (both armed) during the first service. During our second services, my wife volunteers with the bambinos. She loves her some bambinos. But since she can't be absolutely certain on any given Sunday that a child won't somehow get into her purse, she disarms before going into the "Creation Land" area and locks her gun in the console of her car. But then she's down on the floor with the little ones (in her classroom, they are all in the 18 month to 2 yr old range) playing with them and so on, so she feels it is safer without the gun then. Even so, After I come off the stage during the second service, I'm usually hanging out on a sofa in the lobby, right outside Creation Land, and I am armed. Nobody is going to harm those kids or my wife if I can help it.