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by The Annoyed Man
Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:11 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Anyone carry blanks?
Replies: 76
Views: 13402

Re: Anyone carry blanks?

2crazy2carry wrote:
gigag04 wrote:Must be trying to get your post count up to sell something :lol:
Yeah, I am selling ppl like you better punch lines. :thumbs2:
[joke]
Warning shot = 1 to COM, with a verbal command: "If you continue to attack me, I shall shoot you again. You've been warned!" :mrgreen:
[/joke]
by The Annoyed Man
Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:08 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Anyone carry blanks?
Replies: 76
Views: 13402

Re: Anyone carry blanks?

tornado wrote:There's a story about a circuit preacher back in the Old West who was questioned about why he carried a gun. Someone asked him, "Don't you believe that if it's your time, it's your time?" He replied, "Yes, but it might be the other fellow's time."
If that's not from "Pale Rider," it should have been!
by The Annoyed Man
Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:03 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Anyone carry blanks?
Replies: 76
Views: 13402

Re: Anyone carry blanks?

TheReverend wrote:
Dudley wrote:Warning shots in the chest. If that doesn't work it's time for a head shot.
LOL - I hear that :coolgleamA:
Reverend, you actually raise an interesting question, one which a Christian must answer for him/herself when considering CHL. I have answered it for myself, based in part on Luke 22:36. But CHL carries a tremendous moral responsibility, and that responsibility is both inward looking in regard to our own sober appraisal of whether or not we are willing to use a firearm in self defense, and outward looking in regard to not shooting people who don't need shooting. So I understand your thinking regarding the idea of a warning shot. You feel as if your conscience requires giving the bad guy one last chance.

The problem with this is that his decision is already made, and at any range at which a warning shot might be effective (without placing yourself at further risk), it is arguable that any kind of shooting, blank round or live round, may not be legally justifiable. It's a touchy thing.

I recently watched that movie "The End of Spear," a true story about 5 missionaries killed by Waodani tribesmen in the Ecuadoran jungle. There is a scene in which Nate Saint's son Steve is talking to his dad before he flies off to his encounter with the Waodani, a warlike and dangerous tribe. Steve asks his dad if he will use his gun if the Waodani attack him. Nate says no, he won't, because he is ready to meet Jesus, but the Waodani are not. If he dies, he'll be fine; but if a Waodani dies, that person will not see heaven. Long story short, the Waodani kill Nate and the other men with him, at the end of a spear. But while I feel called to share the Gospel with anyone who wants to hear it, I am not a missionary, and I take the viewpoint that my particular call is not to needlessly sacrifice my life in the perhaps vain hope that years later it might have an impact on my assailant's spiritual walk.

So for what it is worth, I have decided that if God wants me alive, there is nothing that I or anyone else can do that can kill me. And if God is ready to call me home, then equally there is nothing that I or anyone else can do that will keep me here. I also accept that God may send an earthly or spiritual angel to intercede on my behalf in extremis. However, I also recognize that God may call on me to be the agent of my own deliverance in extremis, or to be the agent of deliverance for my family and other loved ones. Thus, I carry a gun so as to be prepared for that call. And in so far as it is within my capability to get home safely to my family, then I will do what it takes, including the use of lethal force to ensure that result.

If my use of lethal force leads to the death of an attacker, I have made the rationalization to myself (yes, it IS a rationalization, but I believe an eminently moral one) that his/her death was caused by his decision to attack me, not by my decision to defend myself. Thus, I am not bound to fire a warning shot. My producing a pistol in the first place is all the warning the assailant deserves. If he procedes, the responsibility for the outcome is on him, not me.

I hope this makes sense to you.
by The Annoyed Man
Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:55 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Anyone carry blanks?
Replies: 76
Views: 13402

Re: Anyone carry blanks?

Not me either. "Warning shots" are a horrible idea. Don't pull the gun until you have no other choice. Don't pull the trigger unless you really need to shoot the other guy. A warning shot simply leaves you with one less round, which you may later regret. And if you're carrying a blank in the chamber, then you are down a round from the get go.

And then there is the possibility that you don't have the luxury of a warning shot, and now you've got to clear a blank from the chamber, either by firing it or by racking the slide, before you can bring it into play in your own defense.

Bad idea all around.

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