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jimlongley wrote:

Lykoi wrote:you probably won't be jumping fences and running through a trainyard any time soon... i hope.

So now fenced railyards are the only places railroad property exists?

KEEP UP

"Critical infrastructure facility" means one of
the following, if completely enclosed by a fence or other physical
barrier that is obviously designed to exclude intruders:

no it's not the only place railroad property exists... but if you read the actual PC it specifically states it must be "enclosed completely" by a fence or other physical barrier... so yeah

if you want to stop trying to be so condescending this might go more smoothly as a discussion.

kitty wrote:Ahhh. Ok. So, if I see a sign like that one, and they try to change the language to include CHL's, it's not valid because it's not a 30.06 sign? Is that correct? Well, what about railroad property, and the infrastructure language for the 30.05 penal code, do those still not apply as well?

you probably won't be jumping fences and running through a trainyard any time soon... i hope.

Lykoi wrote: airports broadcast via radio frequency under direct authority of the FCC... PD's transmit on FCC secured frequencies as well...

i was under the impression this was the reasoning for the 30.05 postings and the consideration of them as "critical infrastructures".... as "FCC regulated radio stations" are inclusive in the 30.05 listings

Xander wrote: That is incorrect. Ham radio operators use FCC controlled frequencies and equipment as well, and that wouldn't make my house "critical infrastructure" if I were a ham operator. The code specifically refers to "federally licensed radio...station." The FCC has very specific licenses for radio stations, and airports and police departments don't have them.

Lykoi wrote:if that's the case then i stand corrected... and gladly at that...

jimlongley wrote:I am a FCC regulated radio station, a couple of times over, and I broadcast under direct authority of the FCC too, does that make me "critical infrastructure"? I don't understand your reasoning.

keep up.

Xander wrote:

Lykoi wrote: airports broadcast via radio frequency under direct authority of the FCC... PD's transmit on FCC secured frequencies as well...

i was under the impression this was the reasoning for the 30.05 postings and the consideration of them as "critical infrastructures".... as "FCC regulated radio stations" are inclusive in the 30.05 listings

That is incorrect. Ham radio operators use FCC controlled frequencies and equipment as well, and that wouldn't make my house "critical infrastructure" if I were a ham operator. The code specifically refers to "federally licensed radio...station." The FCC has very specific licenses for radio stations, and airports and police departments don't have them.

if that's the case then i stand corrected... and gladly at that...

Xander wrote:

Lykoi wrote:
you should read the TX PC too... it's right in front of PC 30.06.

airports and PD's fall under "critical infrastructure"

Poppycock. Go read PC 30.05 again. It specifically lists all types of facilities that qualify as "critical infrastructure" and neither airports nor police stations are on the list.

Additionally, as other posters have already pointed out *several* times, you cannot be charged with criminal trespass under 30.05 solely on the basis that you're carrying a concealed handgun or weapon. It's all right there in the code, if you read it.

airports broadcast via radio frequency under direct authority of the FCC... PD's transmit on FCC secured frequencies as well...

i was under the impression this was the reasoning for the 30.05 postings and the consideration of them as "critical infrastructures".... as "FCC regulated radio stations" are inclusive in the 30.05 listings

txinvestigator wrote: If it mentioned concealed weapons I doubt it was a 30.05 sign. There is really no such thing as a 30.05 sign.

I bet if you check, if was a 30.06. And if not, if you could shoot a pic of it and post it here we could be more clear. Or do you remember the language?

you should read the TX PC too... it's right in front of PC 30.06.

airports and PD's fall under "critical infrastructure"

§ 30.05. CRIMINAL TRESPASS. (a) A person commits an
offense if he enters or remains on or in property, including an
aircraft or other vehicle, of another without effective consent or
he enters or remains in a building of another without effective
consent and he:
(1) had notice that the entry was forbidden; or
(2) received notice to depart but failed to do so.
(b) For purposes of this section:

all the PC codes by chp and such are available here... via DPS
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm