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by LarryH
Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: UPDATED/Oklahoma City pharmacist / first degree murder / VID
Replies: 164
Views: 24962

Re: Oklahoma City pharmacist / first degree murder / VIDEO

I believe he's digging himself into a hole that he won't be able to escape.

"If you find that you're digging yourself into a hole, stop digging."
by LarryH
Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:52 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: UPDATED/Oklahoma City pharmacist / first degree murder / VID
Replies: 164
Views: 24962

Re: Oklahoma City pharmacist / first degree murder / VIDEO

HGWC wrote:I'm not seeing how merely being conscious gives justification for the deadly force.
That's not what we're saying. His being unconscious totally negates justification. That's all we're saying. Consciousness would be necessary, but not sufficient. There would also have to be some movement that could reasonably be interpreted as threatening.
by LarryH
Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:29 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: UPDATED/Oklahoma City pharmacist / first degree murder / VID
Replies: 164
Views: 24962

Re: Oklahoma City pharmacist / first degree murder / VIDEO

Pete92FS wrote:The autopsy report said he was alive after he was shot in the head, the five shots to the stomach killed him. He could have been grazed in the head and just knocked out and was coming to as he was shot again. You can't tell from the video if he was unconsious or not at the time he was shot the second thru fifth times.
Just watched the video of the statement the DA made to the press. He stated that the head shot was a grazer and knocked him unconscious. He said "the 16-year-old child" was still unconscious when shot in the abdomen.

On the other hand, he did say that the first shot was completely justified, and if that had been the only shot, "we wouldn't be here today".

He also mentioned the inconsistency between the pharmacist's statements to news media and the video. A perfect example of the inadvisability of talking to anyone without your lawyer until recovering from the adrenaline dump.

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