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by ScottDLS
Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: SXSW Weapons Free policy 2016
Replies: 47
Views: 9184

Re: SXSW Weapons Free policy 2016

thatguyoverthere wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... -in-texas/
But while gun-rights advocates might want to bring their firearms near the president, the Secret Service has invoked its authority under federal law to prevent that from happening. Hoback said in an email that Sections 3056 and 1752 of Title 18 in the U.S. Code give the agency the right to prevent "firearms from entering sites visited by” officials they are protecting, “including those located in open-carry states.”

“Only authorized law enforcement personnel working in conjunction with the Secret Service for a particular event may carry a firearm inside of the protected site,” Hoback said. “Individuals determined to be carrying firearms will not be allowed past a predetermined outer perimeter checkpoint, regardless of whether they possess a ticket to the event.”
I haven't looked up the statutes that were referenced by the SS agent in this article, but apparently they believe that federal law trumps the 2A. Anyone surprised?
I did and they could conceivably use them to exclude people in advance with wanding or pre-checks, but if they were to catch you CCing or open carrying with a license, the most they could do would be kick you out. You wouldn't have violated any federal statute, just by carrying...or at least not that one.
by ScottDLS
Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:31 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: SXSW Weapons Free policy 2016
Replies: 47
Views: 9184

Re: SXSW Weapons Free policy 2016

Yeah they really shoulda' frisked Hinkley in '81, and avoided Reagan and Brady getting a bullet. Never mind that it's already against the law to CC in DC and to shoot people... :rules:
by ScottDLS
Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:11 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: SXSW Weapons Free policy 2016
Replies: 47
Views: 9184

Re: SXSW Weapons Free policy 2016

thetexan wrote:
mreed911 wrote:
thetexan wrote:I don't understand.

Why does anyone care what their "policy" is???

I want to know if they understand 30.06 and 30.07. They have a way to accomplish keeping someone out and it's not by publishing their "policy".

Give an official 30.06 or 30.07 notification.

Tex
They can "cancel" your ticket/wristband to the show - that's a civil contract between you and them. That's what they're alluding to.

Ahhhhh! Very good answer! This is precisely the analysis we were discussing in the "can a hotel keep you out by policy" debate in another thread.

Yes, if by purchasing a ticket you are agreeing contractually as a matter of law to conditions encumbering that purchase them that condition may be stated using any non .06 or .07 language.

Is that what that are doing?

tex
So what? Then they can take me to civil court and sue me for violating the terms of my ticket...if they find me carrying. Then they can prove the damages caused by my carrying concealed....etc., etc. :yawn :yawn Unless they're going to have private security roving around public property in Austin frisking people and cutting off their wristbands it's really kind of a silly policy. Then again I could be the one that "takes the ride" for ripping the tag off my mattress in 1982... :evil2:



I can't be prosecuted for a crime for carrying on public property or on private property (unless they provide the statutory notice).

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