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mojo84 wrote:

Charlies.Contingency wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

Charlies.Contingency wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

XDgal wrote:What is cruelly ironic is, neither 30.06 or 30.07 have any barring on the carry of long guns. It is still legal to carry those into businesses. They can be asked to leave and if they don't, they will face a trespassing charge, but the signs won't stop them from entering.
XDgal

A regular no firearms sign applies to the carry of rifles into business.

Does a gunbuster have legal grounds for rifles? I'm not aware of it being legal notice.

It's my understanding they do. Why would they not?

I don't recall anything in the penal code, quoting you are trespassing with a firearm if there is a sign saying no guns. Acts just like a place with no signs in regard to open carry of a handgun. If you get notice to leave, then you must leave.

The sign is the notice. Nothing in the penal code says how notice has to be given to non-CHL's or regarding rifles, just that is has to be given. Their wasn't a requirement for a 30.06 and 30.07 sign until the legislature decided there needed to be specific signage that conveyed proper notice.

If you parse through 30.05 I think you will find it is open to interpretation as to how someone "receives notice" under what conditions they aren't allowed to enter a publicly open premises. For premises closed to the public, certain notices are prescribed. Does a circle-slash Beretta mean no long guns? In order for you to get jammed up for a class A, I think the proprietor at least owes you a clear notice. In 1995 the (anti-gun) AG interpreted any sign to be sufficient notice for 30.05, but I am not aware that there was anyone actually prosecuted. And had most local authorities followed common practice at the time a verbal warning or trespass notice usually was required.

I think businesses that want to prohibit all three should follow the lead of Whole Foods and post 3 signs...a (BIG) notice prohibiting firearms AND a 30.06 AND (presumably after 1/1) a 30.07. Then hopefully everyone can follow my lead and not shop there.

mojo84 wrote:

XDgal wrote:What is cruelly ironic is, neither 30.06 or 30.07 have any barring on the carry of long guns. It is still legal to carry those into businesses. They can be asked to leave and if they don't, they will face a trespassing charge, but the signs won't stop them from entering.
XDgal

A regular no firearms sign applies to the carry of rifles into business.

Right. So now they have to put up 3 signs... Regular, 30.06, & 30.07. Orrrrr...they could just ask you to leave if you're annoying them by being "tactical" with your AR, or open carrying a pistol (if they even notice).