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C-dub wrote:

clarionite wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

clarionite wrote:

ScottDLS wrote: I'm 100% with you on this, We've got class c misdemeanants with lifetime federal firearms ban. The Federal "domestic violence" definition is very loose. I think that states could define it "out" of the federal prohibition, maybe.... And also know that there is no clear way to identify "DV" in the federal system. Especially problematic is the woman ('cause it's always a woman, right??) who copped to a class c or b before Sen Lautenberg's law, for shoving her husband. And the female that "slapped" her intimate partner for making a sexist remark...

I'm no more OK with a woman slapping a man than I am with a man slapping a woman. Neither are appropriate in my book.

do you consider such "slapping" a felony that should permanently ban a woman from owning a gun?

I don't see it any different than any other adult slapping another adult.

Why is it different?

The laws may be specific regarding a man slapping a woman, but I doubt it. The question at this point in this discussion is whether or not you think a slap deserves a permanent deferral.

clarionite wrote:

ScottDLS wrote: I'm 100% with you on this, We've got class c misdemeanants with lifetime federal firearms ban. The Federal "domestic violence" definition is very loose. I think that states could define it "out" of the federal prohibition, maybe.... And also know that there is no clear way to identify "DV" in the federal system. Especially problematic is the woman ('cause it's always a woman, right??) who copped to a class c or b before Sen Lautenberg's law, for shoving her husband. And the female that "slapped" her intimate partner for making a sexist remark...

I'm no more OK with a woman slapping a man than I am with a man slapping a woman. Neither are appropriate in my book.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

C-dub wrote:

lfinsr wrote:I keep seeing this question over and over. I understand the law and it is what it is. Among us there is no one that hasn't done something stupid at some point in their life. Whether or not you were caught is the question....

There really needs to be a way to fix this. A bad decision you made when young and dumb shouldn't haunt you the remainder of your life. At some point you've paid your dues. Am I the only one that believes this? I believe this is something the would benefit a great number of people that were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Saying that we were all young and dumb and did stupid things is one thing and sounds cute, but we all have not done things to get us DQed from having a CHL. I wasn't caught because I didn't do anything disqualifying to get caught doing. Yeah, I did stupid things, but nothing illegal like that.

Pushing your spouse, girlfriend/boyfriend, son, daughter or any intimate partner can get you a misdemeanor family violence conviction. I understand what you mean, but we have to consider the changes to federal law and to some extent state law. I know a man who was convicted of family violence for pushing his drunk wife into a sitting position on the couch. Some people are now pushing to make verbal and/or emotional abuse a criminal offense. People better wake up and stop this very dangerous trend.

Chas.