b322da wrote:Cedar Park Dad wrote:Scott Farkus wrote:http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/co ... /12502695/
"A bunch of suits came in the room and cased the joint and frisked me and everybody and then everybody went nuts with their cameras and the president came in and shook everybody's hand," said Webb.
afaik, neither Franklin BBQ nor Magnolia Cafe are posted 30.06 or 51%. President pops in, Secret Service frisks you and finds your weapon. You have a valid CHL. What happens? I assume they take gun - do they give it back when he's gone? Under what authority could they take it? You're not on federal property or violating any laws, right? Is there some kind of "halo rule" that follows the president and creates a federal gun free zone around him?
They won't be frisking me without cause.
I think that forum readers are entitled to know what one should do to stop Secret Service agents from frisking them under the circumstances being considered here. I say this only in the interest of the welfare of those readers.
a. Draw a concealed handgun carried pursuant to their valid Texas CHL?
b. Physically resist them?
c. Evade them by fleeing from the immediate premises?
d. Complain vociferously, citing their "Constitutional rights," hoping the media most likely present make video and audio recordings?
e. Call their lawyer?
f. Or something else?
Meanwhile, as readers consider what their attitude and action might be, they might consider at least the following:
In 1971 Congress established criminal penalties for a person who “knowingly and willfully obstructs, resists, or interferes with an agent of the United States engaged in the performance” of the Secret Service's protection mission. 84 Stat. 1892. I would suppose their lawyer could argue to a federal judge that being frisked under the circumstances related here was an unreasonable search and/or seizure. In 1965 Congress authorized Secret Service agents to make arrests without warrants if a crime is committed in their presence. 79 Stat. 890.
Jim
I believe the procedure is that the Secret Service (don't have the initials SS for nothin') come in, throw you physically to the ground, and kick you to see if any guns fall out. If you complain or speak at all, they pull a micro-Uzi out and and empty about half a mag into you. They then find any family or friends of yours and require them to clean up the location before His Majesty the President treads his Royal Self into the location. This has been standard procedure since at least the 1940's, though the micro-Uzi's didn't come in till the mid 80's as they weren't invented until then.
