Sir, LT here. I am one of the real old hands here. These are 2 new brand names to me and I am sure to others on the forum. I am a retired instructor. Have worn leather for years. Carried since the beginning. I know several others with a lot of leather experience here too.
If you would give their web sites I would be glad to look at them and give you an experienced opinion and see that would help any. I will be sure to tell you if I find any real flaws in design or workmanship.
Also I am always interested in the chance to look at quality products.