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I just watched a You Tube Video by Colonel West (from 12 days ago and seen by myself for the first time today). He makes the points much more eloquently with added information on Constitutional Carry, especially in the state of Texas

In this thread, I believe oohrah stated, “I do NOT support Constitutional carry….”

Granted I am a junior member in this forum, but how do you square the above statement with your oath of enlistment (below)?

“I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;…”

I am more than willing to be educated on this but realistically if you support the Constitution you should probably support Constitutional Carry.

Hoping not to hijack this thread so have started seperate topic

Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)
https://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=100353

I am planning on writing/calling those 3 Senators still on the fence and would encourage everyone else to as well (I have already done so with Dan Patrick and my Senator is who instead trying to introduce gun control legislation across Texas).

In fact, if you are against Constitutional Carry you might want to get with the gun control legislators to support your agenda. Some suggestions:
1. Prevent individuals from carry unlicensed handguns in their cars while out in public. Many of these individuals currently do not have training and education and are a threat to the public as a whole.
2. Increase training time for LTC, we want all these individuals to be super responsible not just a little responsible.
3. Charge more for the LTC process. It makes it more valuable and weeds out the individuals who are not serious about carrying a handgun.
4. Join my Texas Congresswoman in opposing open carry of long guns. In fact, you should not be able to carry (concealed or open) long guns in the state of Texas without training and legal education. By doing this you would stop the rash of crimes that are currently occurring across Texas with open carry long guns.

Again, open to discussion and change of mind, but at this point SUPPORT CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY, at the same time I support training and education.

oohrah wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:39 am I do NOT support Constitutional carry. There are no bars to carrying a handgun already. Texas is a "shall issue" state. Any law-abiding citizen without a criminal record can buy and carry a handgun if they demonstrate proficiency and knowledge of the law. They cannot be denied. Rights sustained.

I believe with rights comes responsibility. I also believe carrying a gun in public without training or knowledge of the law is irresponsible. I know I will get a lot of pushback on this, so don't expect me to respond to your arguments. Just wanted you to know that there are responsible gun owners out there who do not support this.

I would actually like some discussion on this position. How much training or knowledge? We are basically going to give the Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms back to the Government to determine if citizens have met the requisite amount of training and knowledge. By this logic you should also oppose lessening of training requirements, ideally oppose lessening cost of licensing. You should oppose anything that makes it easier to get a license.

Are my 3rd Amendment Rights, forcing me to provide lodging to soldiers in my homes during peacetime without my consent nullified if I lack knowledge or any legal training or training in Constitutional law. This applies to other Constitutional rights as well.

May not be the proper thread, but I respectfully ask.