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Greybeard wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 9:03 am Below is how I recently modified the LTC page on our web site:

Private (minimum 5 hour) LTC classes are available for 1 - 4 people at $60 per hour on weekdays or $80 per hour on weekends (if available).
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The same hourly rates - with a 2 hour minimum - are applicable for anyone who needs to complete the RANGE PORTION of the recently-approved Texas LTC "online classroom course" option where Govt Code 411.188 (on pg 18 of the 2018 LTC-16) reads:

(d-1) A qualified handgun instructor shall require an applicant who successfully completed an online version of the classroom instruction part of the handgun proficiency course to complete not less than one hour but not more than two hours of the range instruction part of the handgun proficiency course BEFORE allowing a physical demonstration of the handgun proficiency as described by Subsection (d)(2).

The first hour will consist of the same DCSA Orientation as is standard with all classes, which meets the requirement stated above - and also qualifies people for DCSA Freedom Plan memberships. The second hour, or as much as needed thereof, will consist of the same range safety instructions and "demonstration of proficiency" as regular LTC class "Level 1" shooters (defined above). (See FAQ page for details on procedures, the actual course of fire and target scoring.)

In summary, the cost for the RANGE PORTION of the new "hybrid" LTC class option for 1 OR 2 experienced students on a weekday or weekday evening will be $120.00 (or $160.00 if needed on a weekend). Contaaly "Step 3".

skeathley wrote: ↑Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:12 pm Just got an email from someone who is charging $229.00 for the online LTC course. Really? Who in the world would pay that much for a class that can't possibly be worth over $100.00?

I better raise my rates.

switch wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:05 pm "It's likely that some of the actual instructors are not actually gun guys at all, but work for a company whose owner took the necessary courses to be authorized to sign off on the forms. I would bet that the online process was started by a member of the legislature who was taken to an expensive golf course by a lobbyist hired by Sylvan, or another mass provider of online courses so they can get into this market."

I doubt that. There are 10 course providers listed by DPS. None appear to be famous.

skeathley wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 4:52 pm I saw a Facebook ad for one of these online providers. They claim that, after taking their $49 course, you just have to go to a local range for the Proficiency, and you will end up paying about the same as for a live course.

I think that is a lie. The average cost of a class seems to be about $80. I don't see any instructor doing one hour of range training + the Proficiency for $31. Based on my current rates, that would cost about $90. I suspect most people will end up having real trouble getting the range training, or paying a lot more than they bargained on.

On the flip side, I visited the website of an LTC instructor who also offers the online course, and it *appears* that he is not requiring the range training, just the Proficiency.

I suspect that the only consultation on this idea undertaken by our legislature was with *one* online training firm, who designed the requirements to benefit themselves (and that legislator).

warnmar10 wrote:

ChrisR wrote:...

One instructor in Houston is sending all his students to take my online class for $25 and he only holds the one hour instruction and range qualification. He is actually making more this way and only spending a hour and 10 min handling the "shooting/instruction" portion and not having to spend 6 or 7 hours holding a class. I will see how it goes.

What a country!