Well, maybe you should. Interpreting the proper use of force or deadly force to protect property is a MUST understand if you intend to do it. Otherwise, you are going to be in major hot water.Valk wrote:Sorry chief. I don't follow url(s) on this board or any others.Keith B wrote:I think you need to go back and read TPC 9.41 and 9.42 on use of force/deadly force to protect property and just what is justifiable. http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/9.41.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/9.42.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Valk wrote:Sorry guys,
I'm really at a loss in reading your comments. Where are all of the "come take it" people. Where are all the folks who can recite all the constitutional amendments? Did I miss it or has someone said you have the right to protect your property.
It is my property and I will go to great lengths to protect it.
Like it or not, I stopped them BEFORE any damage occurred.
I'm done on this thread.
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- Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:42 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Defending Your Property Line
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- Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:45 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Defending Your Property Line
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I think you need to go back and read TPC 9.41 and 9.42 on use of force/deadly force to protect property and just what is justifiable. http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/9.41.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/9.42.00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Valk wrote:Sorry guys,
I'm really at a loss in reading your comments. Where are all of the "come take it" people. Where are all the folks who can recite all the constitutional amendments? Did I miss it or has someone said you have the right to protect your property.
It is my property and I will go to great lengths to protect it.
Like it or not, I stopped them BEFORE any damage occurred.
- Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:18 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Defending Your Property Line
- Replies: 54
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But the manner in how you go about doing something makes all the difference in the world. From reading your post, you went out with the intention of doing battle from the start, when maybe all it would have taken was a friendly request to not tread on your yard. Sometimes approaching things in a friendly manner can keep something from escalating when it shouldn't.Valk wrote:Sorry guys,
I'm really at a loss in reading your comments. Where are all of the "come take it" people. Where are all the folks who can recite all the constitutional amendments? Did miss it or has someone said you have the right to protect your property.
It is my property and I will go to great lengths to protect it.
Like it or not, I stopped them BEFORE any damage occurred.
There is an old addage that says 'When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail'. Sometimes we need to put down the hammer and evaluate the situation before trying to smash it.
- Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:13 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Defending Your Property Line
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So you are saying you were already in a confrontational mindset (I could have taken them....) And you WENT and got your gun.Valk wrote:I did not initiate a confrontation. I didn't say a word. My gun was over 50 feet away and I would have had to go around 2 cars and a motorcycle. I'm sure I could have taken at least 2 of them. The other 3 would have had to wait their turn. My next step, had they not changed their plan, would have forced their hand because they would have had to run over me.Jim Beaux wrote:Valk, Im not trying to pile on here, but I feel an obligation to tell you that if the situation you outlined had escalated and you ended up in court on a gun related charge, I think that the majority here, if on the jury,would probably have voted to convict.
CHL or not, you cannot initiate a confrontation and expect to be able to use your weapon to settle what basically is a civil matter. Think it through, there are so many avenues you can take to ensure your property rights and they all are cheaper than using your gun.
Im sure one of our fellow lawyers will be by soon and have something to contribute.
This is the whole problem. Instead of politely asking that they not encroach on your property line, you were ready to fight. We as a society are so set on this method of confrontation that we can't seem to realize that someone may be very willing to work with you and keep off of your property. Sometimes people need to see if there really is a problem instead of envisioning one and then approaching the situation as if it has already reached that point.
- Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:26 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Defending Your Property Line
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You call the police and don't get confrontational, and potentially go back inside. Unless you are at risk of bodily harm, then you are best to let them handle everything. You will open a BIG can of worms if you approach them with a gun drawn for just stepping foot on your property.Valk wrote:If you tell someone they are trespassing and they don’t stop or leave, what’s next?