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sodchemist wrote:

Keith B wrote:

sodchemist wrote:i do have a chl. and nice sig 220. and a new iwb holster that i picked up at the waco gun show this weekend. but the accessories that cause THIS opinion are my two sons--whom are typical boys--and my fear of the Lord.

If one of your sons attack me and is pounding my head into the pavement, I will defend myself in an appropriate manner, up to and including shooting one of them. Typical boys should not attack a person and try beating the snot out of them. Period.

And I have no fear of the Lord, he is my savior. But we will not get into religious discussions in this thread and on the forum as it is a rule violation.

right on man! report me for typing "the Lord". do the kingdom a favor! and be sure to love your neighbor with ALL of your pistol.

sodchemist wrote:i do have a chl. and nice sig 220. and a new iwb holster that i picked up at the waco gun show this weekend. but the accessories that cause THIS opinion are my two sons--whom are typical boys--and my fear of the Lord.

sodchemist wrote:i am glad that she was indicted. i am getting sick of the excuse "i feared for my life". it is getting out of hand. there are victims who are truly fouled in this game of life, and the perps deserve a penalty--two shots in the chest here--but there are also certain types of "victims" that chose to engage in "flopping", i.e., crying foul at minimal contact. we must have the wisdom to distinguish the two. for example, you are in your car and you have to shoot someone (twice) because they are breaking your window? drive away or, just brandish and call them off. respect human life. this weekend's verdict is another good example. someone wants to be a neighborhood watchman; someone wants to pursue "strangers" walking around. great. but the watchman can't even handle a fight with a stoned teenager who is walking back to his dad's house with some munchies? so watcher-man ends up shooting the stoner as soon as he gets a bloody nose? maybe he shouldn't be a watchman. i wouldn't want him walking around my neighborhood near my teenage sons.

barstoolguru wrote:

Fact here is a SINGLE mom (maybe she was abused by her husband)

Maybe she was an alien, but that too is not reported, and not a factor in the discussion, except in your version.

And why not; so your saying that a Woman have problems with her personal life could have no reflection on her shooting another man? Her being a single mom and getting three kids ready for school or daycare and maybe running late and driving eradicable has nothing to do with it either?

and how do we know she doesn't have "battered woman syndrome" ?

you need go back and read all the articles and everything I said came from the articles except for the speculation (that’s free of charge)

barstoolguru wrote:

Mike1951 wrote:

Keith B wrote: .

I gave up on logic and reason on page three!

Should the video and 911 completely vindicate her, I don't expect him to change his tune.

I am sorry you and so many others take this as just another page on an internet board and call it justified. Laws are created to help people defend themselves but never meant for something as simple as a road rage incident. Being a truck driver for many years I seen these things happen and they seem to work themselves out. Say she didn't have a gun then what would have happened; would she have been beaten to death in the parking lot? Or maybe she just gets punched in the nose and the cops show up and he gets arrested BUT for a man to lose his life because she was "scared" or "feared for her life". Did he have a weapon; NO, but she did and because of that she limited her options to one!

what is scary here is the fact that people are saying that every time someone gets into a heated argument it’s OK to shoot someone because "I was in fear of bodily harm" well if that is the case shut up! What scares me is the message that will be sent out if she gets acquitted. so maybe I am not the only one that needs to change

barstoolguru wrote:

Keith B wrote:

barstoolguru wrote:She rear ended him and by law you have to stop and trade info so he couldn't have keep on going or he would have been in violation of the law. Since he was the one that got rear ended in this little game I bet he was mad.

I have not ever seen where it said she rear-ended him. Damage shown in videos looks like it is to the front of his truck, so maybe he hit her? No matter, he was the one in a rage because he got out and started pounding on HER car, games or not. If you and I are playing a game of swap the leader in traffic and you get out and start pounding on my car, bust my window and try to enter with me inside you will also potentially get shot.

A woman on her way to work fatally shot another motorist she said attacked her after a minor collision in northwest Harris County, officials said.
Crystal Scott, 23, pulled into a Shell station on Perry near west FM 1960 about 7:20 a.m. Monday with the intention of exchanging insurance information with the other driver, officials said.

They stopped (by law) did he break her window or did the bullet fired from inside the vehicle do it. Was there disparage; only after the accident (she wasn't frail, crippled, or sickly) all of a sudden she was a helpless victim of a crazed man (that she incited)

Was there a crime committed by the shooter...yes…road rage; then the law says you can't claim self-defense. Would she have gotten arrested if your lawyer and pastor wasn't there...very good chance she would have but the cops are not going to try and quote law with a lawyer when she is there quoting law and I am sure the cameras didn't hurt.

I am all for people defending themselves but not in this case. She had a gun and she was not backing down. One thing we was taught in class and that was to be the adult and work to resolve things before they get like this but she must have missed that part

barstoolguru wrote:She rear ended him and by law you have to stop and trade info so he couldn't have keep on going or he would have been in violation of the law. Since he was the one that got rear ended in this little game I bet he was mad.

barstoolguru wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

barstoolguru wrote: all we know is he approached her and she felt threatened (public gas station with other around). Is that justification to shoot and kill another?

People have been beaten to death while others stood around and watched. All it takes is one well placed punch. Just because the event occurs in a public place with others around does not make it safe. Are you going to base your survival on whether or not someone is going to come to your aid or whether or not you can take a punch?

You need to be introduced to the real world.

Anygunanywhere

So any time someone has a disagreement with another it is justified to shoot them because they might hit you?

barstoolguru wrote:

§ 545.401. RECKLESS DRIVING; OFFENSE. (a) A person
commits an offense if the person drives a vehicle in wilful or
wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property

your right; her driving down the road taking turns cutting each other off is normal every day driving. What was wrong with me to think that they were endangering everyone around them with their little road rage stunt. And while all this is going on I bet they used their blinkers too

Kawabuggy wrote:Did you notice in that link that they labeled the 20 year old that got shot as the "victim"? If he is truly a "victim" does that mean she had no right to shoot him? I think ABC is trying to put their anti-gun slant in play on this one.

I'd be interested to see how this plays out as well. We don't have all of the facts yet.

Here's a scenario-the shooter ran into the shootee, and then refused to stop to exchange information. The shootee follows her until she finally turns into a gas station. As he approaches her window-she draws a gun and shoots him. Maybe he was "enraged" that she refused to stop at the scene of the crime. I'd like to hear more information, and/or see video from the gas station. There was another witness in the shootee's vehicle. Why has that person not been interviewed yet? What is their side of the story? Why don't we hear from that person? Has anyone looked up the shootee's Facebook page to see the comments yet from friends, family, and potentially the other person that was in his car with him?