Sure the wrong sign is confusing. But if unsure if the 51% is incorrect, then just obey the sign. If you are adamant about patronizing the place, then either go back to the car, disarm and then go back in. At that point you will be legal and can go look at their liquor license and validate if they are SIGN=RED (51%) or SIGN=BLUE (not 51% and legal to carry.)JustMe wrote:I understand that--but if I walk into a restaurant and see a red sign, even tho I THINK that I'm Sure it is incorrect--and don't have access to the database right that minute----See why having the incorrect sign can be confusing!!!Keith B wrote:I answered in my post above. The sign does not make it off limits. It is the license that does. And if you don't want to check the database, the license is to be posted in the business where it is visible and you can see if it says SIGN=RED or SIGN=BLUEJustMe wrote:But----if a place has an incorrect red 51% sign up and you carry anyway-wouldn't you be just as "guilty" for going against their sign? You don't know what kind of license they have and the only way you have to determine is the sign.
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- Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:25 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: True TABC signage
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Re: True TABC signage
- Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:03 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: True TABC signage
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I answered in my post above. The sign does not make it off limits. It is the license that does. And if you don't want to check the database, the license is to be posted in the business where it is visible and you can see if it says SIGN=RED or SIGN=BLUEJustMe wrote:But----if a place has an incorrect red 51% sign up and you carry anyway-wouldn't you be just as "guilty" for going against their sign? You don't know what kind of license they have and the only way you have to determine is the sign.
- Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:02 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: True TABC signage
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Re: True TABC signage
I would assume that they would go by the sign. At that point you would still have to prove it was not a 51% location to the DA. I would think that one would be much easier to do. And, an improper sign does NOT make a place illegal to carry at, in case anyone wonders.steveincowtown wrote:Riddle me this, if a place had a 51% sign and was not supposed to have it, and by some chance an LEO caught you carrying does he rely on the sign or does he check with TABC?Keith B wrote:I personally WILL report a red sign business that does not have a 51% sign posted. The reason being is you are still illegal carrying in a 51% location, even if they don't have a sign or the wrong sign up. As a CHL you only get a defense to prosecution. That means you may take the ride and have to fight the fact that you didn't know it was off-limits as there was no sign.Lambda Force wrote:As long as you're only reporting BLUE SIGN locations that post wrong I support your effort.
But reporting RED SIGN locations that post wrong is like telling a business owner their sign doesn't satisfy the 30.06 requirements.
- Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:48 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: True TABC signage
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Re: True TABC signage
I personally WILL report a red sign business that does not have a 51% sign posted. The reason being is you are still illegal carrying in a 51% location, even if they don't have a sign or the wrong sign up. As a CHL you only get a defense to prosecution. That means you may take the ride and have to fight the fact that you didn't know it was off-limits as there was no sign.Lambda Force wrote:As long as you're only reporting BLUE SIGN locations that post wrong I support your effort.
But reporting RED SIGN locations that post wrong is like telling a business owner their sign doesn't satisfy the 30.06 requirements.