Actually, the minute you are asked to leave by someone of authority at the business, you must comply as that is oral notice, and it carries the same weight as 30.06. If you refuse, you can be immediately arrested for Criminal Trespass when the cops show up.GrayGuy wrote:WildBill, I respect your views, but, what I see happening in that situation is:WildBill wrote:Welcome to the Forum GrayGuy.GrayGuy wrote:I’m a new grandpa on the CHL block, and maybe I’m missing the point. Hopefully you guys can explain it to me.
Why would you want to go into an establishment with a posted sign restricting guns even if it does not meet the specifications in the law?
Isn’t that forcing an issue you could loose not to mention the possible legal expenses that could be incurred if you are spotted and sued.
1. I would want to go in because, I legally can go in. Some people wouldn't go in because of "the principle", but invalid signs do not offend me.
2. I wouldn't be "forcing any issue". That is why there are specific requirements for valid postings. Even if you were spotted, you would not be breaking any law and there would be no basis for being sued. If they asked me to leave, I would immediately leave.
You are asked to leave the establishment.
If I leave I would feel a little foolish because I knew they didn’t want me and my gun there.
If I don’t leave then the cops are called and they will ask me to leave and at that point I would leave, again feeling a little foolish.
If I didn’t leave then I assume I would be removed forcefully and booked for on one of the trespass laws.
To me that makes for a bad day and I’m not sure I would want to go through all that.
So, as WildBill said, invalid signs are not a problem and I will carry past them.