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quidni wrote:

My Dog attacked by Pitbull while wearing my CCW

Personally, I'm still wondering why the dog was wearing his CCW.

tfrazier wrote:

Keith B wrote:...stopped me about half-way in the door, mouth on my neck. He was not biting, but all 175 lbs was on me (I weighed about 140 at that time) and I was pinned to the ground. When I called his name, he backed off a little and I could peek out from under the hood. He saw me and immediately backed on down with his tail wagging. My sister and I both felt a lot more comfortable with her living alone after that!

Very dangerous, especially with a dog that large if he gets your neck. The suits are great for stopping puncture wounds, but don't do a lot to eliminate the pressure that could break bones. You could have ended up with a broken neck. I've never seen a bite suit with a collar, so I'm not sure how your neck was covered, but it's been a good 20 years since I've worn one.

Nobody else should ever try this even if they have access to a $2,500 bite suit unless they have some good training and experience as an agitator, and you should always have an experienced handler present when doing bite work.

Had a padded and reinforced neck collar and hood. I could not feel any pressure at all. The Dane's have fairly strong jaws, but not as strong as a Shepard. Having play wrestled with him and having him 'bite' and mouth be before, I was not too concerned about being injured with the suit. But it WAS done in my younger more stupid days. The worst part of it was his big horse paws and weight on my back and having to clean Dane slobber off of the suit. LOL

frazzled wrote:

My own dog bit me once when he decided it was unreasonable for me to force him out of a perfectly good hovering helicopter on a rope harness.

I think that would be a common reaction from most people as well, including me. "You want me to do what?" CHOMP!

Yeah, smart dog. There is no reason to jump out of a perfectly good aircraft.

On the dog suit, my sister used to own a Great Dane who had supposedly been trained of personal protection. She had recently gotten divorced and she and my niece had moved into a house across the street from my parents. I borrowed one of the suits from our department and called my sister to advise her I was going to come into the house unannounced with the hood on and see what he would do. Needless to say, he had been well trained and stopped me about half-way in the door, mouth on my neck. He was not biting, but all 175 lbs was on me (I weighed about 140 at that time) and I was pinned to the ground. When I called his name, he backed off a little and I could peek out from under the hood. He saw me and immediately backed on down with his tail wagging. My sister and I both felt a lot more comfortable with her living alone after that!

OK guys, neither of you is going to convince the other apparently. Please cease the bantering back and forth on this or take it off line to PM.

OK folks, it IS about 1mm for getting the post locked. Please discuss without pointing fingers or accusations. Anymore and the topic will be locked immediately.

Doug.38PR wrote:

p.s. I consider people letting their dog get within leash reach of my dog when they're both on a walk as being extremely inconsiderate and troublesome. There is no need for that and I wouldn't tolerate it. You might be unlucky enough to run into other weird/rude dog owners like myself. If you've noticed, if dogs never get within reach of each other, they NEVER get hold of each other's throats and try to kill one another.

I guess we live in different kinds of neighborhoods. Where I come from, having your dog come into contact and reach another is considered fun, frisky and playful. People around here commonly do it. In fact, like I said, those guys did it with their Pit Bulls until this incident anyway. I even came into contact with them once before. They showed no agressive behavior...that time...but they WERE in full contact and could easily have snatched my dog by the neck or any other dog being walked out there.

I was going to stay out of the discussion, but have to enter in.

Dogs are dogs. I have owned many over the years and they can be playing one minute and fighting the next. You have to acclimate dogs to each other and once they have established the Alpha role of the two, THEN you can be more at ease.

A very good friend of mine is a veterinarian and I helped him establish his clinic years ago. If you knew how many dogs have come in with injuries from 'playing' which turned into a fight you would think again about letting your dog approach another one. I will NEVER let my dog go up to an unknown dog, whether on a leash or not.

Terrier breeds are usually more aggressive and will tend to fight more quickly than some other breeds. I have a small Manchester Terrier (my third one) that weighs 11 pounds. They were bred in the 1700's in England for killing rats and mice and were used in rings to time them to see how long it took them to kill 100 rats. She will scrap with the biggest dog around if she thinks her territory is being invaded. If you combine the aggressive terrier part with the extremely strong jaws and stout body and size of the American Staffordshire Terrier (aka Pit Bull Terrier) and you have a natural bred fighting machine. Are Pits naturally mean? Generally no, but they can be made to be more aggressive toward other dogs and taught to fight, and that is why they are used as ring dogs. Terriers are strong willed and when they get into a fight, they usually don't back down until they win or are so badly injured they can't go any longer.

Bottom line, leash or not, you should keep your dog under control and away from other dogs until they have established territories and boundaries and you are comfortable with their demeanors when together. At that point they can get into the wrestling and playing mode.

I am glad your dog was not hurt in this incident and hope you Dad recovers quickly from him injuries.

OK folks, please stay civil in future posts or the thread will be locked.