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RossA,

I figure you to be a good guy, with a lot of technical law knowledge, but when you're beaten, try to be gracious and understand, the attitude toward Cosby isn't antithetical to the Constitution.

It's simply overwhelming in it's evidence of victims.

The victims didn't come forward for glory, fame or money. They were dreadfully embarrassed and angry and wanted the tiniest of justice. I wouldn't disregard them...as all shameful scalawags, seeking money or attention.

This monster needs to be in prison where he belong for the rest of his days.

If you care to hold onto your technical law perspective, fine with me.

I think he should be in prison.

He's an evil, manipulative monster.

I'm hysterical with laughter!

I just looked up your forum backround.

You're not only a lawyer, but claim to be a minister, yet you threaten me because we debate something that apparently tips you over the edge when we don't agree....?

And you denied being a liberal...

RossA,

Threatening other forum members is considered poor form.

If you don't like my arguments, fine.

Threatening me, not....

(pssst, if you can't handle the heat, get out of the...)

I neglected to mention (once again) he's an actor.

Think he's above acting blind and batty to get a cushy prison gig? (as cushy as they get, you know like the mafia getting to cook sauce & pasta in their cells and so on)

Give me a break.

He'd act his way into anything that'd give him an advantage. He's a professional actor and criminal. Of the worst kind.

What's the worst kind?

Sexual predators.

Even every day low life criminals hate them and for good reason.

They have female relatives....or male, if you throw in the other kind of sexual creeps.

RosssA,

Your curriculum vitae is admirable.

Since I've pretty much already presented my arguments, I am disturbed to see you express little sympathy or mention of the women who've come forward, though Cosby is writ large as innocent with what's been presented as far as you're concerned. He (and you) stand for truth, justice and the American way....uh-huh...

Are the victims to be dismissed en masse as mere piffles that have zero bearing on Cosby? Shallow publicity seekers each and every one?

In the past, Cosby has been accused, found guilty, convicted of sexual assault is also simply another piffle not worthy of consideration with his most recent conviction for the same thing? Pish posh, so what if he's done it before, that doesn't mean anything.

Really? Having a record of sexual assault may not be meaningful to you, but it is to me.

I suppose you would defend all the priests who molested young boys too. After all, they only spoke up (after years of agony) about their ordeal with molestation by those they trusted. I don't recall many of the priests being thought innocent though not caught in the act, as many, many of them confessed...

I'm guessing you're a defense lawyer.

Your honor, the only victim here is my client. Look at him. He's old, half blind and demented, surely you can't think he'd ever stoop so low, well...except for that one time, but let's not think about that...

He's innocent I tell ya.

RossA,

I have a question.

Given some of your stances regarding Cosby, and I'm not accusing you of being a liberal, but are you?

If so, then I understand better why you seem so gentle regarding criminals.

Or, am I wrong?

For reasons beyond my understanding, liberals seem to care more about criminals then their victims.

Puzzling to say the least....

SewTexas,

Read "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. It'll help you understand my point. It's a fairly short read...

This is how Cosby should spend the rest of his miserable life....

Sexual predators are the worst of us.

Crime by way of bank robbery or what have you, yeah, go straight to prison. You aren't honorable either, but you're not are sick. You're simply a disgustingly greedy criminal.

Sexual sickos deserve a long, painful journey to death.

Oh, too much?

Remember the victims.

The victimizer isn't to be considered kindly, except to break rocks with a sledge hammer or work on a chain gang.

Oh, let's pretend he's partially blind and demented...ever heard of con men who're especially expert at it as they are professional actors...?

He's one....

RossA,

'Know" ...apparently in this instance I don't.

Please elaborate and I'm not being difficult.

Honestly, I don't understand your post....

I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon. Piling on isn't for me. I'm for the underdog.

This guy isn't an underdog...just a slavering, vicious sexual predatory dog.

If you're (and maybe you aren't) in his corner, I hope you understand I'm not one to go bonkers because of a he said/she said scenario.

That isn't the case here, but the overwhelming number of victims finally coming forward isn't suspect...

He's been self admittedly convicted of this type predatory sexual assault behavior in his past. That's not to be overlooked. Sexual predators remain sexual predators. They don't change their spots.

Why would so many of his victims step forward? Fame? Glory of some weird kind? I don't believe it. It takes courage to admit to this type victimization because the victim is already traumatized. To go through the necessary steps to get creeps like this jailed is painful, very painful, for the victims. This is no fun thing for them.

These guys don't stop until jailed.

Remember Harvey Creep-stein and his ilk...?

SewTexas,

I take it personally because I have a Wife, a Daughter and two Granddaughters who would be preyed upon by monsters like Cosby who then, when finally being caught, want to play the victim role.

He's not the victim.

He's rotten to the core.

He didn't treat his victims humanely, but he gets to be treated humanely...justice my eye.

The victims (not counting the ones who're too embarrassed or unfairly feel ashamed to step forward) should be focused upon, not Cosby.

And how do we know his lawyers didn't advise him to act demented (he is an actor) so if convicted (he was) he'll get to spend his days in a 'rest home for prisoners where he'll be treated humanely'.

Partly, my outrage is what it is due to criminals being let go before they've served their time. Especially, the violent ones and the sexual predators.

Liberal judges and the system in general go waaaaaaaaaay to easy on these mutts.

"The legal talent could pursue that saying the alternative is cruel and unusual punishment."

Which is what his victims received...but, let's not worry about THEM, they don't count....

He should be in prison.

As far as old cons in prison, lots of them have mental problems i.e. dementia and often worse, but they don't all get to go to 'prison rest homes'. They stay right there in regular prison where Cosby should be.

"Pretty dangerous thought process there. “He did it before, so he must have done it this time.”

Well, I respectfully disagree.

If you've proven a personal precedent for a particular type of unlawful sexual behavior, there's a reasonable expectation you'll quite possibly do it again.

Weirdo sex freaks aren't in the same category as bank robbers or car thieves or con men, they're depraved sickos.

Not just criminal....

Frankly, walking the plank would be too good for them.

As far as housing them as old guys in a rest home, nah, give em a hot shot and be done with it.

Oh, I'm too harsh?

How about if it was your mother, sister, aunt, etc.

Yeah, you'd change your mind right now, no waiting.

I sincerely doubt the number of those who admit to his ah, 'attention' is some sort of conspiracy of hateful women.

Given he's admitted to the kind of sexual criminality he's accused of in the past, paid an enormous amount for his actions, (that's called being caught and no getting around it) what more do we need?

But, yer honor, at this point, I've only been found guilty and admitted to robbing one bank, how is it possible I robbed all those others..? I ask ya, be fair, how is it possible I got away with all the others I'm accused of?

Here's why?

Generalizing: Criminals get away with their crimes many, many times before being finally caught.

So, he's old. So what? Does being old confer immunity?

It doesn't.

He's evil, caught in the act of being evil, while fooling us all into believing he was the epitome of goodness, which makes his gross crimes, societally even worse.

Hanging, standing before a firing squad, I'll bet he'd laugh like the devil he is...

"No way to defend yourself when the testimonies are the only evidence."

Yeah, kinda like those poor priests molesting young boys, but were never caught in the act"

They shouldn't have even been criticized, never mind prosecuted.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
How long ago did these assaults allegedly take place?

I don't know, but he was (I think) convicted for sexually (I'm not certain that's the precise wording) assaulting 3 women. Many women have come forward, but the statute of limitations has stopped them from pursuing any legal issue against him.

One woman apparently sued him for being drugged and assaulted, won the case and was awarded a large amount to which he publicly admitted to.

I use to be one of his biggest fans, loved his comedy records back when such things existed (without a bit of foul language in them) plus his t.v. show where he had a situation comedy/wonderful family. Just everything about him was lovable and good.

And, now we find he's among the monsters...

Not being a lawyer either, but 60 women (could be even more afraid to step forward, admit crimes done to them) wait for justice.

Some system we have eh...?