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by lawrnk
Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:27 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: The gun show a few weeks ago. 30.06?
Replies: 61
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frankie_the_yankee wrote:
Liberty wrote:
frankie_the_yankee wrote: Nobody is talking about "yelling out" that you have a gun. I am simply saying that people could calmly inform door security that they are CHL's, that they are carrying, that the signs are unenforceable due to the venue being owned by a government entity, and that they are going to insist on their right to enter.

Not sure about that. Last year when my wife was recovering from a back injury we went to the nutcracker market @ reliant. My son was 6 months old, and they banned strollers. I argued left and right with the lady who called the cops. I was told they did not want to hear about the ADA or govt property. The rule was the rule. I was peeved. I told the lady I am going over the the wheelchair rental and putting him in one. She asked if my 6 month old was disabled. I said, "Well, he can't walk!"
What a Hillary.
by lawrnk
Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:40 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: The gun show a few weeks ago. 30.06?
Replies: 61
Views: 9378

The discharge issue didn't cross my mind when I posted this. I suppose that makes sense. I believe they also banned vendors from selling both ammo and guns. I saw one or two ammo vendors, and neither sold firearms. I also never saw ammo for sale at any of the hundreds of firearm vendors.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:It does seem a bit ironic on its face; something like a "no dogs" sign at the entrance of a dog show.

However, the reality is that guns shows are going to be a thing of the past, not because of the anti's legislative efforts, but because insurance companies aren't going to continue to insure them if we keep seeing unintentional discharges. As soon as a promoter can't get insurance, government-owned facilities will no longer be available. As txinvestigator said, the temptation to show their gun to someone, or to try on a holster or fanny pack, is just too great for some people.

Something else to consider is a topic discussed in another thread a while back. People at gun shows are not exempt from TPC §46.02. So unless you have a CHL, it's illegal to carry a handgun at a gun show. This is not enforced, but it is the law. Further, as a CHL, you can legally carry a handgun at a gun show (presuming you are not violating a valid and enforceable 30.06 sign), but if you intentionally fail to conceal it, you could be prosecuted. If promoters were to take the position the CHL's can carry loaded only if they comply with TPC §46.035(a) (concealed), then the only way they could enforce this requirement would be by hiring police officers to make arrests of CHLs "intentionally" failing to conceal their guns. It's a no-win situation for gun show promoters.

I don't like 30.06 signs - period. However, with the number of discharges we've seen at gun shows in the last two years, I think they may be necessary. (I also think they are unenforceable on government-owned property, but that's a subject for another thread.)

Chas.
by lawrnk
Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:54 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: The gun show a few weeks ago. 30.06?
Replies: 61
Views: 9378

The gun show a few weeks ago. 30.06?

I went to the gun show a few weeks ago and found it pretty ironic to see a massive 30.06 sign walking into a gunshow. Is this a reliant arena thing?


I am also ashamed to admit I went to the reliant last weekend for a very estrogen filled nutcracker market. I had to carry the kid for my wife.I saw only a gunbuster on the door...so I am confused. Either way it seems silly to ban CHL's at a gun show.

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