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by remanifest
Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:35 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin City Limits Festival
Replies: 47
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Re: Austin City Limits Festival

AJSully421 wrote: So, here is where this gets to be fun.... if the private event promoter decides that you have "violated the terms of your contract / ticket", specifically for carrying a handgun with a license in a public park... who is going to come and throw you out?

Private security in Texas cannot lay a finger on you, they can only observe and report... so they cannot toss you and they cannot arrest you. If they call the real cops, they cannot use 30.05 to remove you because of 30.05(f) and they cannot use 30.06 because the event is occurring in a city owned park. So, the cops cannot touch you unless you are acting crazy, swearing, or being abusive.

No one can legally touch you if they find that you have a licensed handgun.

What will happen next is they will invite some high school marching band to play and try to call the whole thing a "School sponsored event" and restrict carry that way.

All the more reason that every off-limits place needs to be exempted for LTCers.
I can concur with that. I got into an a minor debate with a friend regarding campus carry. The argument was that it was less safe because more guns were on campus. Simple retort was that more guns=more safety, stats show violent crimes occur overwhelmingly in gun-free zones, and that LTCers contributed to less than 1/4 of 1% of all crimes in Texas last year, and that bad guys don't bring guns to places where there's a real good chance that they could be gunned down quickly by a well-prepared citizen, nullifying their claim to fame. We're not dealing with risk-takers in these kinds of attacks. We're dealing with people who do terrible things for a multitude of other motives, the least of which is the respect of the lives of fellow human beings. We are the people who stand ready to defend what is ours, and our loved ones from harm, so long as we are able.

It's a no-brainer to let the people who are statistically proven to be the safest, most law-abiding people in society carry weapons. These people are exactly the kind of people any sane person would want to be there if they were ever caught in such an unfortunate position.
Skiprr wrote: ...
I wasn't the one who brought up ATG opinion KP-108, but let me remind you how Ken Paxton summed it:
The plain language of subsections 30.06(e) and 30.07(e) make an exception if the property on which the license holder carries a gun "is owned or leased by a governmental entity." These statutes make no exception to that exception for property owned by a governmental entity but leased to a private entity, and to conclude that carrying a handgun on such property is prohibited would therefore require reading language into the statute beyond what the Legislature included.
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But you need to quit using the "private entity" argument. Ain't never gonna fly.

Someone who does live in Austin should pick this up and get the Attorney General involved. Paxton has sued Waller County over something way more marginal than this. This one seems pretty outright blatant.
Couldn't agree more. I live in Austin, and I have a family. It is a small challenge that I have had to tell my family that I an generally uncomfortable being in places that disallow carry. This list includes some grocery stores that we would sometimes go to, and now will include ACL and other festivals that have these ridiculous rules attached. I would love to see the AG weigh-in on this and put it to bed. How do we get that going?
AJSully421 wrote:All the more reason that every off-limits place needs to be exempted for LTCers.
I completely agree!

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