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by grim-bob
Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:45 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: AR Pistol
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Re: AR Pistol

The Annoyed Man wrote: [*]Regardless of whether #1 includes both halves in the definition, If I bought a stripped lower at a gunshow, and I assembled it into a rifle, shot it for a while, and then I later rebarreled the upper receiver to 7", removed the rifle/carbine buttstock and reconfigured it as a pistol, possibly with a Sig or other brand of brace, how on earth is BATFE going to know what the original use was, and whether it was modified or not subsequent to that? After all, a declaration of intended use was not a part of the original purchase transaction.


[*]Last question..... Hypothetical Scenario: I have an SKB double rifle case, inside of which are found two complete upper assemblies, and two complete lower assemblies, none of which is actually mated to the other:
  1. an assembled AR "pistol" lower, minus any fancy brace, with just the usual padded buffer tube, assembled using a stripped lower purchased from an FFL at a gunshow.
  2. an assembled AR rifle/carbine lower, with a 6 position collapsible buttstock, assembled using a stripped lower purchased FTF from a friend across town, which was originally purchased as a stripped lower from a local gunstore.
  3. an assembled AR upper with a 7" barrel and a Magpul AFG.
  4. an assembled AR upper with a 16 M4 profile barrel and a vertical foreward grip.
Is there anything illegal about this collection in this rifle case? After all, it IS possible to configure an unregistered SBR by mating the the pistol upper to the carbine lower........however, that is not the condition in which they are found. Would the legal situation be any different if the carbine and pistol receiver halves were already properly mated together into a pistol and a carbine when found?[/list]

Can someone with practical experience.....preferably with an FFL....tell me what the law says in this kind of situation? Speculation is useless because I simply don't trust legal authorities to not interpret the situation to my disadvantage, even though the law appears to be vague here, and I have not done something overtly (and obviously deliberately) illegal.

And just to reiterate, this is a hypothetical scenario. I do not own any ARs of barrel length less than 16".

You have the same questions as I do. I have several lowers which were specifically listed as receivers and not a rifle or pistol on the forms. I did that thinking I might decide to build a pistol some day....

1: So when I make a pistol how do they know that one of the "receivers" is now locked in as a pistol. I'm an upstanding guy but clearly they could try to argue otherwise as it relates to that receiver.

2: Then in general I have a number or AR parts and guns. If I have one receiver built as a pistol and have several pistol uppers, several complete rifles lowers, several complete rifles and lots of "parts" including VFG and AFG..... So how is that perceived. Can the infer intent? I don't necessarily trust them not to. So do I now need to have a separate safe for the short vs long components?

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