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TreyHouston wrote:NOT GOOD ENOUGH! So. I went to dinner tonight at Texas Roadhouse. Way above the doors was posted a 3007 in black and white split into two signs. Would have never seen it if I didn't have a 40 min wait! These signs need to be eye level on the doors with black printed on white. Another poster said different colors for the different signs, I kind of agree with that one too! Then you can see at a distance what the signs are, for people like me that have fuzzy eyes !!!

I agree with you, it should be within eye level but as of right now it is not within the statue. All you would have to do is cover up or leave, failure to do so would be a class C misdemeanor. I was out with my family in North East mall and there is a store posted 30.06 very hard to see in the left corner of the glass on the store front. I did see it, although it was not in Spanish and the wording was too small.

IMO it should be on the front door of ALL entrances and exits so we do not miss it.

C-dub wrote:A 30.06 sign doesn't even have to be at an entrance. It can be well inside to store/mall. For a mall, I'm thinking about any of the large central areas where things like Christmas trees or stages are located where everyone COULD see it.

Thanks for looking that up, I stand corrected. I was of the impression it had to be at all entrances. That would be a good place to put it. At the mall we frequent that is in the center of the mall.

C-dub wrote:

vjallen75 wrote:These is a huge grey area when it comes to malls. And as C-Dub stated, this has not been tested in court.

IMHO, I don't have the correct wording because I am at work but from my knowledge TPS is very clear that all entrances and have to be posted for it to be a crime.

This is only true for 30.07. Then the question/differentiation becomes the definition of an entrance to the mall versus an entrance to a satellite department store. The point then could be made that each entrance to the mall via a department store like that would also require a 30.07. I'm fairly sure that most malls that do post have posted have correctly posted each of their external entrances, but would doubt that they have also posted each of their internal entrances where one transitions from a store like Macy's, Sears, or Dillard's to the mall itself.

Legally, I think a mall could get away with one 30.06 sign posted where all COULD see it.

I meant I don't have the wording for the TPC that states it has to be on all entrances and exits. Sorry for the confusion. I know there are certain stores that do have a posted 30.07 sign in the two malls I go to but we don't shop at those places anyways. I have not see a 30.06 sign at the mall on any entrance.

Based off of the highlighted statement the only way all could see it if it is posted on ALL entrances correct? Someone will miss it if not. That person would have to prove that the sign was not there when they walked in the mall.

I could be wrong but this is what I have been told and my understanding of TPC.

These is a huge grey area when it comes to malls. And as C-Dub stated, this has not been tested in court.

IMHO, I don't have the correct wording because I am at work but from my knowledge TPS is very clear that all entrances and have to be posted for it to be a crime. If you walk into the mall and happen to walk into JC Penny (not the entrance to outside but actually inside the mall) and notice that there is a 30.06/07 sign as you exit (outside) you were not breaking any laws because their entrance (mall side) was not posted and you were not given effective consent. I would not like to be a case subject for courts for this to be proven right and I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.