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Political science and logic. Here goes:
This country is only the United States because of the Constitution. That is, that document is the only thing that makes our place on the earth more than just a piece of geography between Canada and Mexico, a small atoll in the Pacific, and a patch of land due east of Siberia.
Therefore, if the Constitution has no legal meaning, if it is no longer the controlling force of law in our nation, then there is no longer a “United States” by definition.
And if there is no United States, then Texas or any other state cannot logically secede because there is nothing to secede from.
If it abandons the Constitution, the Supreme Court will have declared that the Constitution no longer has any meaning, whether or not they meant to do that and whether or not they even realized that’s what they were doing. They will still have done it.
In that case there would no longer be a “United States,” just some unclaimed land acreage in the northern hemisphere, and Texas should declare itself a new sovereign nation, from whole cloth, set and prepare to defend its own borders, and set up its own independent government.
The alternative would be to do nothing and continue to live in the make believe that the United States still exists, sorta like continuing to drag your dead dog around the neighborhood by a leash, pretending you are walking him.
The next few weeks will decide if the United States continues to exist or if SCOTUS kills it. I hope it lives.
Should be interesting.

Pawpaw wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:23 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:10 am Time is running out.

Electors vote on Monday.

That does not matter at all. The real deadline is when Congress meets in a joint session to count the votes and declare the victor. That doesn't happen until January 6th.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11641

parabelum wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:02 am

srothstein wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:28 am I like this. Unfortunately, and I am not a lawyer nor an expert in this area, I see a single problem with it. Texas may not have standing for the lawsuit since it is not an injured party. I really want to see this case go through and it is asking for a remedy the courts could order. It is not asking for a specific winner to be determined, just that the legislature be ordered to choose the electors. This might not make a difference to the election overall, as the legislatures could appoint the Biden electors, "bowing to the expressed will of the people" anyway. But I like the concept and the case argument.

Paxton writes:

“The states violated statutes enacted by their duly elected legislatures, thereby violating the Constitution. By ignoring both state and federal law, these states have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but of Texas and every other state that held lawful elections,”

So I read that to be the “injured party”. IANAL of course.