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philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:58 pm

Flightmare wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:27 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:26 am

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:06 am https://news.yahoo.com/judge-weigh-bond ... 55083.html

Judge weighs bond. Prosecutor reads racist texts from father and son.

I don't like that they are using racist texts as an excuse to punish them before they have had a trial by refusing to set a bond. Being racist is not a crime in itself and even if it was, punishing them for it with no trial is not in keeping with our constitution. I would understand no bond if they were a flight risk but that is not what is happening there.

Bond should ONLY be used as insurance against someone who would otherwise flee. That being said, such texts COULD/SHOULD be used as evidence of their state of mind and motive during the trial. But yes, I agree, the texts SHOULD be irrelevant for a bond hearing, in my opinion. IANAL

I posted the update as a caution that what you say on line could come back and haunt you. I think we all know this, but it was a gentle reminder.
A shame how our first amendment rights come with such restrictions.

I would counter that it is NOT a restriction. They were allowed to engage in free speech, as we all are. However, we are not free from the consequences said speech. It is not unfair or unjust to say that we should all be accountable for what we say or do.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:26 am

philip964 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:06 am https://news.yahoo.com/judge-weigh-bond ... 55083.html

Judge weighs bond. Prosecutor reads racist texts from father and son.

I don't like that they are using racist texts as an excuse to punish them before they have had a trial by refusing to set a bond. Being racist is not a crime in itself and even if it was, punishing them for it with no trial is not in keeping with our constitution. I would understand no bond if they were a flight risk but that is not what is happening there.

Bond should ONLY be used as insurance against someone who would otherwise flee. That being said, such texts COULD/SHOULD be used as evidence of their state of mind and motive during the trial. But yes, I agree, the texts SHOULD be irrelevant for a bond hearing, in my opinion. IANAL

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ahmaud-arber ... er-charges

3 Georgia men indicted by grand jury on murder charges

Interesting legal point of view on the case

Mike the Cop has an interesting take on this case

Thankyou for posting that TAM. Basically sums up what I had been thinking.

lj98 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 10:07 pm Sadly too many jump to the defense of the “bubbas” in these situations for a variety of reasons. While I support Stand Your Ground Laws, they are often used to excuse the initial aggressor at the expense of the deceased who, by all rights, should also be expected to stand their ground.

While I am not a lawyer, and not completely up to date on all of the facts of this case; I don't think "Stand your ground" would not apply for the 2 guys in this case. They were the ones who pursued the jogger. If anything, the jogger would be the one who be justified in attempting to stand his ground. Again, this is just based on what little I have read and been told about this case.