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Check this thread...rp_photo wrote:Make that public or private as convenient.SoConfused wrote: They can legally prohibit both concealed and open carry if they put up the signs since it's a private organization.
Works for my family. Just remember, there's a ton of people there Saturday's so bring extra ammo!TexasTornado wrote:Does Saturday the 15th work for everyone?
I was thinking we should meet at Big Tex at 5:00pm. It should be cooling off at that point and is just in time to grab a Turkey leg for dinner!
The problem I see with week days are many of us have kids. My daughter's school isn't providing a day off for the fair like when I was a kid, limiting me to weekends only.TexasTornado wrote:Thursday's are really rough for me with work. Could we manage a Friday? I have a coupon to bring a friend for free so I could still get you in at the Thursday rate
That article talks about privatization of "Fair Park", not "The State Fair of Texas". It's a little deceptive because at the end it mentions "home of the state fair". The Stare Fair of Texas is a private non profit organization. To my knowledge, it's never been owned by a government entity.Pawpaw wrote:Here is the article I mentioned earlier about the Privatization of the state fair. It would still be city property.
http://www.fox4news.com/news/196898985-story
http://bigtex.com/about/financialhighlights/The State Fair of Texas is a Texas nonprofit organization granted tax-exempt status by the Internal Revenue Service under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code.
The Fair does not receive any government funding or support. Its nonprofit purpose is funded through the proceeds from the annual State Fair of Texas event.
Yes, that's exactly what I meant with the Walmart analogy. I was just soconfused about them still owning fair park even though they lease it out.C-dub wrote:The city would still be prohibited from prohibiting licensees from carrying even if they are leasing from a private land owner. Remember, the law says if the property is owned or leased by a government entity.SoConfused wrote:You've got it backwards. Read what you bolded again. It is not leased BY the city during the fair. It's leased BY The State Fair of Texas. What you're thinking about would apply if, let's say, the city rented a Walmart parking lot for an event. In that case the land is leased BY the city. See the difference?
What's the email address you used? I would like to do the same.AJSully421 wrote:I sent them a nicely worded email.
As to the poll my response would be: No, because I don't want for my truck to get broken in to, or being murdered by one of Obama's sons.
Doh! Yeah, I get it now. I was focusing too much on leased, but even if leased by the fair the city still owns it which makes it unlawful for them to prohibit open carry. How do we go about filing a complaint?ScottDLS wrote:Whether they lease it out or not...it's still OWNED by the city. The law has an OR . They can't prohibit carry if it's leased by OR owned by, the city.
The school sponsored event only applies if you're a participant. As for the property not being owned or leased by the city, read my response above.C-dub wrote:How is it that you are so confused over this issue, but don't seem to have any problem with the school sponsored event issue?SoConfused wrote:Unfortunately, it won't be city property. The State Fair of Texas leases the land every year, effectively making it private property for the duration of the fair.TexasTornado wrote:It doesn't matter if it's a private organization or not because it's city property. The signs would be unenforceable. It also does not meet the criteria of an amusement park.SoConfused wrote:They can legally prohibit both concealed and open carry if they put up the signs since it's a private organization.Pawpaw wrote:Just because the law says they can't, doesn't mean they won't. It took some time to get them to allow concealed carry.
I wonder if that website would be enough to file a complaint with the AG?
Oh the irony of your screen name.
You've got it backwards. Read what you bolded again. It is not leased BY the city during the fair. It's leased BY The State Fair of Texas. What you're thinking about would apply if, let's say, the city rented a Walmart parking lot for an event. In that case the land is leased BY the city. See the difference?TexasTornado wrote:SoConfused wrote:Unfortunately, it won't be city property. The State Fair of Texas leases the land every year, effectively making it private property for the duration of the fair.TexasTornado wrote:It doesn't matter if it's a private organization or not because it's city property. The signs would be unenforceable. It also does not meet the criteria of an amusement park.SoConfused wrote:They can legally prohibit both concealed and open carry if they put up the signs since it's a private organization.Pawpaw wrote:Just because the law says they can't, doesn't mean they won't. It took some time to get them to allow concealed carry.
I wonder if that website would be enough to file a complaint with the AG?
From 30.07 bold added for emphasis
It does not say 'owned or leased by unless leased out to a private entity.' Therefore, their lease agreement to a secondary party is irrelevant.(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder openly carries the handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
Unfortunately, it won't be city property. The State Fair of Texas leases the land every year, effectively making it private property for the duration of the fair.TexasTornado wrote:It doesn't matter if it's a private organization or not because it's city property. The signs would be unenforceable. It also does not meet the criteria of an amusement park.SoConfused wrote:They can legally prohibit both concealed and open carry if they put up the signs since it's a private organization.Pawpaw wrote:Just because the law says they can't, doesn't mean they won't. It took some time to get them to allow concealed carry.
I wonder if that website would be enough to file a complaint with the AG?
They can legally prohibit both concealed and open carry if they put up the signs since it's a private organization.Pawpaw wrote:Just because the law says they can't, doesn't mean they won't. It took some time to get them to allow concealed carry.
I wonder if that website would be enough to file a complaint with the AG?
